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Replying to: marine2 (Jun 14, 2005 1:09 pm) Marine - could you rationally explain what are you doing hanging out at "Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna " forum after you have already baught a Dodge? I would understand "Minivan shopping" where I also tried to enlighten people after beeing enlightened myself and purchasing a Honda minivan. But a Chrysler fan here? People choosing between Toyota and Honda (as I mostly did) are not very friendly towards some inheritently inferior "domestic" brands. 
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Replying to: 96corolla (Jun 14, 2005 12:30 pm) Like you, we had pretty much narrowed our choice down to either the Sienna or Odyssey. I think the differences tend to get magnified a bit by the various posters in these forums; we found them both to be strong performers. The Ody handled a bit better with somewhat better road feel; the Sienna was a bit smoother/quieter. The degree of difference (IMO) was not really all that much; drive both and you'll develop your own set of preferences. We were looking at the Sienna XLE w/ the side airbags, traction/VSC, sunroof and leather (I think it was package #6) and the Odyssey EX-L. If I remember correctly, the MSRP of the Sienna (with the package we wanted) was around $2k more than the Ody. Things we liked about the Sienna - a bit quieter, smoother. Flip out 3rd row vent windows. Ability to place console between either the front row seats, or 2nd row seats. Wood (fake) trim. Nicer (IMO) leather/plastics. Remote rear hatch. Trip computer and a few other misc. doodads that don't immediately come to mind. Things we liked about the Ody - felt a bit more 'athletic' (just remember it's a MINIVAN; not a BMW), lazy susan underfloor storage, easier (IMO) to store 3rd row seats, +1 seat, actual availability of desired vehicle/options in color we wanted. If we had made our choice without considering price, we would have chosen the Sienna XLE w/ package #6. However, in our area, pickings were few for this model, in a color we liked, without all the extraneous junk that Gulfstates Toyota adds. We were able to negotiate a van for around $32.5 without trying too hard. On the other hand, we were able to negotiate an Ody EX-L for $28.6, easily. Yes, we thought that for the options we wanted the Sienna was a 'nicer' van......but not $4k nicer. |
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Replying to: 96corolla (Jun 14, 2005 12:30 pm) As far as the Quest guy (this board is apparently a catch-all now). I'd disagree on the $5K being made up in resale value. I'm sure the numbers will change, especially if other people dislike that center console on the Quest as much as I, but the resale values between the Nissan and others is pretty small (7-9%) according to: Cars.com residual values |
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Replying to: dae (Jun 14, 2005 1:23 pm) If you look at a number of other threads, I think you'll see I've been there too. I have noticed a number of Honda and Toyota owners have dropped in on some of the Dodge/Chrysler threads and made their comments such as yours,inheritently inferior "domestic" brands. I think I can honestly say I have not put down Honda or Toyota vans, even though I think Honda's quality is over rated. One only has to look at the complaints on the 2005 Honda and 2005 Dodge Chrysler threads to see that. No one is complaining about anything major happening to their 2005 Dodge/Chryslers and they've been out many months longer than Honda. I do like to see what they are complaining about on the 2005 Honda/Toyotas. It sort of does away with that superior than you myth, that's put out about Honda, that some of you eat up. They are a very good van, but it's obvious reading these posts, Honda has a lot of faults. And so far, they are much more than the 2005 Dodge/Chryslers. |
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"Maybe most Honda and Toyota owners has so much money they usually have work done for them or are willing to pay $35.00 every time you buy something." Insinuating that owners of competing makes are a bunch of money-burning snobs won't win you many converts. Just a friendly FYI. "I guess you or your wife never go into a store and buy something you never even contemplated buying before hand." That's not what we are saying at all. It's just that usually, our impulse sales don't require a Ryder truck or Dodge van with stow'n'go seats to get home. Another FYI: a typical 10-15 gal horizontal air compressor will fit just fine in the back of virtually any minivan with the 3rd row folded to make a flat floor. "I thought of these things and about my grandkids, that's why I picked the Dodge instead of any other van." If I remember correctly you were at the Dodge dealer getting some service work done on your truck and just wandered over to look at the vans. Doesn't sound like you did just one heck of a lot of comparison shopping to me. But it does explain your emphasis on impulse buying of large objects.
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"But very useful to know about the tether attachments for the +1 seat... I wouldn't have expected that. Maybe it is there to accomodate the second capt. chair when it is pushed over?" Yes; it is not a dedicated tether attachment point. It is the mounting point for the rt. hand captains chair if it is mounted in the middle so it is a very sturdy point.
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If I remember correctly you were at the Dodge dealer getting some service work done on your truck and just wandered over to look at the vans. Doesn't sound like you did just one heck of a lot of comparison shopping to me. But it does explain your emphasis on impulse buying of large objects. I didn't need to do much comparison shopping. I had driven the Honda once while getting the Civic serviced and I see no other van had stow-n-go, so there was really nothing to compare it with. The Dodge had everything I needed, stow-n-go, power sliding doors, power rear hatch, power driver's seat, am/fm radio with disc and cassette, six speakers with controls on the steering wheel, over head computer, etc. for less than $25,000 and zero financing. I'm set for the next 10 years. |
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Replying to: rorr (Jun 14, 2005 1:57 pm) He certainly is sold!
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jun 14, 2005 3:09 pm) |
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Honda looked long and hard at stow n' go seating. After all, they had this in 1995 with the first Odysseys. All of their focus groups and research told them their customers perferred seat comfort to folding seats that are of little if any value to MOST people. I have sat in the stow n' go seats and found them to be thin and uncomfortable. I'm glad Honda made the decision they did although I know some sales may be lost by this gimmicky (to me) feature. Chrysler was forced into the 7/70 warranty because they were losing customers because of mechanical problems. They HAD to do something and they did. Hopefully things have improved and the longer warranty will no longer be needed. Either that or the warranty claims were killing them and they had to change it for that reason. I really don't know.
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