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Replying to: rorr (Jun 14, 2005 10:19 am) Maybe marine2 is an impulse shopper or a garage sale junkie who routinely decides on a whim, to buy something large, like a used recliner or something! I can't think of too many times in my lifetime when I've suddenly been pressed for room to suddenly transport something I decided to buy all of a sudden.  We are, indeed, all different! |
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Can somebody suggest which of the following cars is better: Nissan QUEST S - on the road price $ 23, 000 (because of the Nissan's rebates and below invoice price bargaining) v/s Honda Odyssey EX - on road $ 28,000 Is the Odyssey worth that extra $5000.0 (i.e ~ 20 % price difference). I personally donot like to center console in the Odyssey. But in terms of driving and car exterior, it is not bad. As much as Honda looks good, it is difficult to justify the extra $5000.0
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Well, I know my dad, as he's gotten older, seems to have developed an affinity for estate sales. But, since he drives a Prius it's unlikely he'll be bringing home anything TOO large  "I can't think of too many times in my lifetime when I've suddenly been pressed for room..." Well, I remember when I was in college having a sudden need to transport a 6' wooden drafting table (kinda fell into a deal I couldn't refuse). Fortunately, I was able to get it (mostly) into the back of my '86 CRX Si...... |
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You guys better quit picking on him. Judging from his name, he may be able to kick your A$$! I know it is all in fun! rorr - big huge THANKS for your summary above. It is about the best one I've gotten on Ody vs Sienna for my specific issue. I really appreciate it. My wife thinks I am absolutely nuts doing all this research, but I'm totally printing out your post and taking it home to her. Thanks. "however, a carseat can be secured with the lap/shoulder belt and a tether over the seat back (there is an anchor point accessible in the floor at the rear of the +1 seat.) " How do you do that....send your tether strap from the car seat over the top of the #1? That is great info. Initially it wouldn't matter because as you know, the infant carrier is just a base and doesn't have a tether. However, for future reference it is good to know. Antother question - different subject - I've read on odyclub about brake problem that many folks are having. Have you guys heard of this and is there any cause for major concern? We're planning to drive both on Thursday AM. I'll let you know how it turns out. In the meantime, if you can think of any more tips or anything specific I should look for it would be much appreciated!!! Thanks again. PS for the guy asking about the quest - YES, and honda or Toyota are worth the 5K. You'll easily get it back in resale value, not to mention your own satisfaction IMO.
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Maybe marine2 is an impulse shopper or a garage sale junkie who routinely decides on a whim, to buy something large, like a used recliner or something! I can't think of too many times in my lifetime when I've suddenly been pressed for room to suddenly transport something I decided to buy all of a sudden Maybe most Honda and Toyota owners has so much money they usually have work done for them or are willing to pay $35.00 every time you buy something. I'm not. But I am sort of an impulse shopper. I went to Checker Auto parts to by a sun shade for my truck. While there, I saw this air compressor for sale for over $80.00 off. With two cars, I knew I could use an air compressor, not only for blowing up the tires, but to paint my fence, clean the air filters, the wife's and grand kids water flootties and etc. Yes, for that much off, I bought it even though I had no intention of getting one when I went in. I had my truck so there was no problem bringing it home. If I had your Honda, I would of needed help getting it in the back if it would have even gone in that way, even dropping down the third seat. In a Dodge with one seat stowed, it would have been a snap, even doing it myself. I guess you or your wife never go into a store and buy something you never even contemplated buying before hand. I think a lot of people do. I think you said once you have never had your seats removed in your van. If I had had mine a couple of years earlier, I sure would have. I remodeled my bathroom and put in a new toilet, vanity and tub surround. But again, I had my truck to put it in. I can't afford to hire everything done for me, so I do a lot of it myself. I thought of these things and about my grandkids, that's why I picked the Dodge instead of any other van. It will do it all for me. I can say if couples only have a couple of kids in car seats and want them in the second row, it will work for them too. But people have to buy what's right for them. I just think they should really consider carefully what your going to use it for, before buying and not make a mistake like I did with the Focus. I lost a lot of money getting rid of it after only one year. I'd rather spend my money taking trips than wasting it or buying something that won't do all I want it to, when I want to do it.
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Replying to: marine2 (Jun 14, 2005 1:09 pm) Marine - could you rationally explain what are you doing hanging out at "Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna " forum after you have already baught a Dodge? I would understand "Minivan shopping" where I also tried to enlighten people after beeing enlightened myself and purchasing a Honda minivan. But a Chrysler fan here? People choosing between Toyota and Honda (as I mostly did) are not very friendly towards some inheritently inferior "domestic" brands. 
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Replying to: 96corolla (Jun 14, 2005 12:30 pm) Like you, we had pretty much narrowed our choice down to either the Sienna or Odyssey. I think the differences tend to get magnified a bit by the various posters in these forums; we found them both to be strong performers. The Ody handled a bit better with somewhat better road feel; the Sienna was a bit smoother/quieter. The degree of difference (IMO) was not really all that much; drive both and you'll develop your own set of preferences. We were looking at the Sienna XLE w/ the side airbags, traction/VSC, sunroof and leather (I think it was package #6) and the Odyssey EX-L. If I remember correctly, the MSRP of the Sienna (with the package we wanted) was around $2k more than the Ody. Things we liked about the Sienna - a bit quieter, smoother. Flip out 3rd row vent windows. Ability to place console between either the front row seats, or 2nd row seats. Wood (fake) trim. Nicer (IMO) leather/plastics. Remote rear hatch. Trip computer and a few other misc. doodads that don't immediately come to mind. Things we liked about the Ody - felt a bit more 'athletic' (just remember it's a MINIVAN; not a BMW), lazy susan underfloor storage, easier (IMO) to store 3rd row seats, +1 seat, actual availability of desired vehicle/options in color we wanted. If we had made our choice without considering price, we would have chosen the Sienna XLE w/ package #6. However, in our area, pickings were few for this model, in a color we liked, without all the extraneous junk that Gulfstates Toyota adds. We were able to negotiate a van for around $32.5 without trying too hard. On the other hand, we were able to negotiate an Ody EX-L for $28.6, easily. Yes, we thought that for the options we wanted the Sienna was a 'nicer' van......but not $4k nicer. |
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Replying to: 96corolla (Jun 14, 2005 12:30 pm) As far as the Quest guy (this board is apparently a catch-all now). I'd disagree on the $5K being made up in resale value. I'm sure the numbers will change, especially if other people dislike that center console on the Quest as much as I, but the resale values between the Nissan and others is pretty small (7-9%) according to: Cars.com residual values |
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Replying to: dae (Jun 14, 2005 1:23 pm) If you look at a number of other threads, I think you'll see I've been there too. I have noticed a number of Honda and Toyota owners have dropped in on some of the Dodge/Chrysler threads and made their comments such as yours,inheritently inferior "domestic" brands. I think I can honestly say I have not put down Honda or Toyota vans, even though I think Honda's quality is over rated. One only has to look at the complaints on the 2005 Honda and 2005 Dodge Chrysler threads to see that. No one is complaining about anything major happening to their 2005 Dodge/Chryslers and they've been out many months longer than Honda. I do like to see what they are complaining about on the 2005 Honda/Toyotas. It sort of does away with that superior than you myth, that's put out about Honda, that some of you eat up. They are a very good van, but it's obvious reading these posts, Honda has a lot of faults. And so far, they are much more than the 2005 Dodge/Chryslers. |
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"Maybe most Honda and Toyota owners has so much money they usually have work done for them or are willing to pay $35.00 every time you buy something." Insinuating that owners of competing makes are a bunch of money-burning snobs won't win you many converts. Just a friendly FYI. "I guess you or your wife never go into a store and buy something you never even contemplated buying before hand." That's not what we are saying at all. It's just that usually, our impulse sales don't require a Ryder truck or Dodge van with stow'n'go seats to get home. Another FYI: a typical 10-15 gal horizontal air compressor will fit just fine in the back of virtually any minivan with the 3rd row folded to make a flat floor. "I thought of these things and about my grandkids, that's why I picked the Dodge instead of any other van." If I remember correctly you were at the Dodge dealer getting some service work done on your truck and just wandered over to look at the vans. Doesn't sound like you did just one heck of a lot of comparison shopping to me. But it does explain your emphasis on impulse buying of large objects.
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