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Vans & Minivans Honda Odyssey Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna
5195 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 9:03 AM
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I'm in Seattle...remember?  I know what you are talking about! Yeah, a dealer will either accept your offer or not. If a dealer lets you walk it's because you didn't offer enough. Make that same offer a month later when the inventory levels are better and it may work. Doesn't have to be difficult. As far as color, well...I don't think anyone should buy a color they can't stand just to save a few dollars. On the other hand I guess I can't understand how some people can be so picky they wouldn't at least have a couple of alternatives that they would like almost as much.. But, that's me. We are all different.
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| Ok now I am even more confused. I went on a field trip with my son today and I was one of the drivers (this field trip was 1 1/2 hr away each way). I drove my big GMC Yukon but several parents had minivans. One parent had the 05 Sienna who also has back problems and said it was so fantastic she wouldn't of gone any other way. The Odyessy was no so great for many reasons but also saying there was not much knee room if you are tall because the glove compartment and that whole area is so low. I have to admit I found that to be true in my old Odyessy. Anyway I guess point is everyone thinks of the vans differently and I think I just need to make a decision on what car to get and live with it. I drove the Sequoia yesterday quite a while, it was very nice but just another BIG SUV and so dang expensive. SO now probably the Odyessy, possibly Sienna of Pilot. | |
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Sienna offers a Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) in LE and higher trim levels. Honda considers this to be a "luxury" feature and only offers it in the ultra expensive Touring model. Last month NHTSA ordered Auto makers to begin phasing in TPMS this September. By 2008 model year all new vehicles (10,000 pounds or less) are required to have individual tire pressure monitoring sensors. Can somebody inform Honda that TPMS is NOT a luxury feature but a SAFETY issue. Honda is plastering ads touting safety all over the place. Yet, Honda balks at including a TPMS in every trim level the cost of which is $70 (NHTSA estimate). Honda: Put up or shut up. 
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Replying to: tdm (Jun 02, 2005 2:19 pm) I figured that the dealer can make 3K when they sell the camry, and as for the new Sienna, I paid 1750 over invoice of $36250 ($37000-$750 rebate). I think this deal is ok for me since no other dealer had offered me more than $8000 for my trade-in. |
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Replying to: vrm (Jun 05, 2005 3:15 pm) Do not understand why Honda would do that , they give the Pilot a much nicer interior than the Oddy, I am talikng about the top of the line trims.
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Replying to: vrm (Jun 05, 2005 3:15 pm)
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Replying to: hw4 (Jun 05, 2005 5:15 pm) Am pleasantly surprised at how good the Odyssey's leather seems to be wearing. While the Pilot interior may, at a glance, appear nicer than that of the Odyssey, it lacks certain Odyssey features such as lighted steering wheel controls and more extensive seat back storage). |
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Replying to: cccompson (Jun 05, 2005 5:39 pm) |
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Replying to: dae (May 31, 2005 5:30 pm) The XLE is not a real stripper - what are you talking about? Dual power doors, power liftgate, 8 way dual power seats, alloys, 3 zone climate control, removable center console, upgraded interior, power everything, 10 speaker JBL cd system, fog lights, etc. etc. No, it doesn't have leather or a sunroof and I didn't want either of those options this time. I've had them, and they are overpriced. The dvd also was not a necessity this time as this van is used for mostly short trips. In the future I might get it, or I can easily make do with a portable player. My kids watch enough dvds as it is. "I would reiterate - if you got higher payments on a cheaper vehicle you did not explore all your options for financing properly. That means - you have lost money. " Really, it is just the opposite. I got lower payments on a more expensive vehicle, I explored my options, and saved money. Case closed.
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OK, bear with me please. I've always been confused by leases (as are most people, I understand: the reason auto sales folks love payment shoppers). But isn't the relative value of the deal dependent upon how much was due at signing, how long the lease is, and what the residual is? I'd also assume that the "normal wear and tear" criteria (as actually enforced) and the specified charges for falling below that level upon return would affect the quality of the deal, eh? I think I understand outright purchases (the reason that I've stuck to those) with the idea that you own the vehicle (such as it is at that time) at the end of the payments. There, I'm simply concerned with the actual out-the-door price paid together with any cost of financing. At any time on a straight purchase, I can decide to sell or not depending simply on what I would get for the car and whether I'm satisfied with that amount or not. No forced return with potential "Whoops, that is worse than it should be, so we'll have to charge you for it" or a big lump to buy it outright. But, leases seem to be a slippery sort of thing that, like the odds in Vegas, are stacked to the advantage of the "house." From the customer's perspective, other than the lower-payment (for a season), the only advantage I've heard of involves a possible tax advantage if leased for a business. I'd certainly value some further education on the subject....
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