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Re: ody 2000 slider won't fully close [brugg]
by carolynhan
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May 22, 2005 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: brugg (May 11, 2005 2:43 pm)
I had the exact problem with my 1999 Odyssey about a year ago. When the dealer told me it would be $300 upwards to fix, I decided to live with bumping the door every time it was closed. (Three kids in college doesn't leave us with lots of extra cash). I still have a small indentation from the constant abuse. I was looking on a website, the dealership sent by email, to remind me about my next scheduled service and noticed a recall for this problem, but NOT including my production month and year. I decided with nothing to lose, I'd call the Honda number listed. I explained my problem, possible cost to me even though not included in recall, and was told to return to dealer and it would be fixed free of charge. I have been very happy with Honda so far. I may check into the catalytic converter problem next because my check engine/maintenance required light keeps staying lit. From the reviews, it sounds like it might be a recall or constant problem for some cars. I plan to call Honda again to see what they can do for me. Nothing to lose. It has been a much better experience owning a Honda than any other car so far. We are slowly switching to Hondas and Toyotas with 5 drivers in the family. We only have one GM (Cadillac) car left. We'll never buy a Chrysler product again. We've owned two Chrysler minivans. Good luck!
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- #2172 of 5231
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J D Power IQS (Initial Quality Survey)
by sanger
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May 22, 2005 (8:01 pm)
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Great forum and very informative --- I'm deciding between the 05 Sienna LE + leather and DVD and the 05 Odyssey EX-L plus DVD --- just wondering about everyones' thoughts on the recent J D Power's IQS rating as follows:
>Toyota Sienna - 110 pph
>Chrysler Town & Country - 125 pph
>Dodge Caravan - 126 pph
>Kia Sedona - 137 pph
>Nissan Quest - 139 pph
>Chevrolet Venture - 145 pph
>Ford Freestyle - 145 pph
>Honda Odyssey - 175 pph
Understandably, this is a new model year for the Odyssey, but to score so low is rather concerning, is it not? The new $1000 Toyota rebate is drawing us to the Sienna as well, and a Sienna LE-7 with added leather plus DVD was quoted to us for $2000 lower than the Odyssey EX-L + DVD.... Understandably the Odyssey will come with a few more bells and whistles (double power doors for example) but for an extra $2K? Any suggestions and comments appreciated!
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- #2173 of 5231
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Re: J D Power IQS (Initial Quality Survey) [sanger]
by jipster
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May 23, 2005 (4:19 am)
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Replying to: sanger (May 22, 2005 8:01 pm)
Since reliability/initial quality seem to be important to you...as well as the Toyota Sienna being $2,000 less than Ody. It would seem obvious that you would choose the Sienna. I did not know the Honda Ody scored so low in initial quality...so you do have a good reason to be concerned. Nissan Quest 2004 had a horrible first year in initial quality. The 2005 model is doing much better.
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- #2174 of 5231
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Premium fuel[heywood1]
by 05ody
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May 23, 2005 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: heywood1 (May 22, 2005 4:24 am)
No, the Sienna can run on Regular fuel but you will not get the performance numbers and the amount of horsepower that is listed. If you want the 230hp and 242tq, you need Premium fuel. To me thats just false advertising
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- #2175 of 5231
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Re: Premium fuel[heywood1] [05ody]
by heywood1
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May 23, 2005 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: 05ody (May 23, 2005 5:51 am)
Possibly, but it may be a difference of only one or two hp--and only an issue if you are towing something.
I have never understood why premium can be a deal-breaker for so many people. The average driver could pay for the difference in monthly cost by skipping a couple of lattes at Starbucks.
Many people won't pay the extra cents per gallon for premium, but they'll spend $2 on a soft drink at a convenience store....
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- #2176 of 5231
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Questions about Honda Quality
by dhfd
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May 23, 2005 (9:10 am)
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I always said I'd get an Odyssey when I that time came to buy a van, but since doing some reading here, it sounds like there are alot of quality issues w/ the 2005 Odyssey. This is a little disturbing considering I've seen it always being recommended (Consumer Reports) and getting good reviews.
Are these issues for all trimlines? We're interested in the EX (w/o leather). The van is going to replace a 2002 VW Passat wagon, which was also recommended, but have run into recent problems with it. I don't want to get into a new car that will start having problems right off the bat.
thanks
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- #2177 of 5231
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Sliding Rear Doors on Sienna LE
by dhfd
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May 23, 2005 (9:19 am)
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I really like the dual power rear doors on the Odyssey EX, but we're also considering the Sienna LE w/ the power passenger rear door. Wanted to know if any Sienna owners that only had the power passenger door had any comments/complaints on this setup.
It seems it'd be better if they're going to offer sliding doors to have both of them to be powered. My wife has some friends w/ vans that have them, and who say they can be annoying when you want the door to close more quickly, ie when its raining.
thanks,
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- #2178 of 5231
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Re: Sliding Rear Doors on Sienna LE [dhfd]
by irg
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May 23, 2005 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: dhfd (May 23, 2005 9:19 am)
You have to get an XLE model to get the power rear (hatch) door, and the XLE also includes dual power side doors, whereas the LE only has one side door that is power, and no rear power hatch. I have a new XLE, and at this point, I love the power features, as long as they turn out to be reliable. Assuming they are, I very much like the power rear hatch. It is great for shorter people like my wife, and it is also nice in the winter when the rear doors get dirty and you don't want it all over your hands. Also, if you don't use the power button on the remote or the overhead console, you just give the strap a little tug and it automatically closes as well. Very slick.
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- #2179 of 5231
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Re: Questions about Honda Quality [dhfd]
by irg
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May 23, 2005 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: dhfd (May 23, 2005 9:10 am)
Originally I wanted the Odyssey EX cloth, but the payments were more (about $80 more/month) than a similarly equipped Sienna XLE. The Sienna scored #1 in the recent JD Power for initial quality, honorable mention to the Caravan/Chrysler vans. I think CR recommended the new Odyssey based on the results of past years, and at that point the van was too new to discover whatever problems have since developed. Nissan also had a lot of problems with the Quest the first year, and it seems to be better now. But that was a completely different van. It seems that although this Odyssey is a new van for Honda, it isn't as completely new as the Quest is for Nissan, but maybe it is. Typically I don't like to buy brand new designs, but usually from Toyota and Honda I don't worry about it as much. With the Odyssey however, it might be smart to wait until the '06 models, or look at the Sienna. Both are really good, for me the price I got on my Sienna couldn't be beat. If the reveres were true, I would probably be driving an Odyssey now.
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- #2180 of 5231
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i have no choice, but Odyssey
by yangc
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May 23, 2005 (11:53 am)
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have been spending quite a bit time on this forum research those two models.
I'm in Canada and have tested two vehicles already. didn't feel much different. maybe, just maybe Sienna is a little bit quieter and smoother. but Odyssey's intenior definitely looks better and more appealing.
the most important is that "side and curtain air bags" options are not available unless i go up to XLE model, which starts with CAD50K.
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