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Re: EPA mileage estimates? [dilbertzzz] by hansienna
Aug 09, 2005 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: dilbertzzz (Aug 09, 2005 12:22 pm)

Few 2005 Odyssey owners may be getting the EPA gas mileage because the Odyssey has so much power the owners are drag racing and beating the Porsches, BMW's, Corvettes, Vipers, 300C, etc at the stop light.
     Wouldn't it be fun to see the shock on the face of a proud owner of a high performance car when the Odyssey leaves them in the dust?
     With a lower powered minivan, there is no temptation to drag race or pass all other vehicles on the Freeway.
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Re: 2006 Pricing? [drmonky] by cccompson
Aug 09, 2005 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: drmonky (Aug 09, 2005 4:40 am)

Honda typically raises prices very little ($200-400 MSRP) at the start of a new model year.
 
This sounds like a good deal, especially to get exactly what you want.
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I'm missing something by hayneldan
Aug 09, 2005 (2:19 pm)
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When Odyssey gets a good rating from ONE of the testers in the car magazines, all we hear is how right and accurate they are. But if the owners themselves don't agree with the ONE tester, (Who is a journalist first not an engineer) they dismiss the owners, saying that their expectations were too high. Somehow it does not make sense.
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Re: I'm missing something [hayneldan] by rorr
Aug 09, 2005 (2:32 pm)
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Replying to: hayneldan (Aug 09, 2005 2:19 pm)

Yes, apparently you are missing something. As far as I can tell, virtually every reviewer in every magazine has picked either the Ody or Sienna (usually the Ody) as the 'best' minivan on the current market. And FYI, many of the reviewers in publications like Car and Driver have their education in engineering (which is one of the reasons why these reviewers tend to favor handling and performance over cushy comfort and high feature/dollar ratios).
 
And when you also take into account the virtually rabid following the previous generation of Ody had, then I think making a statement about high expectations is valid.
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rorr by hayneldan
Aug 09, 2005 (3:16 pm)
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Can you offer any validation to the statement that the reviewers have an education in engineering?
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Re: So many 05 Odyssey racalls making me nervous [rorr] by isellhondas
Aug 09, 2005 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: rorr (Aug 09, 2005 5:50 am)

An excellent post that pretty much sums up the way I feel myself.
 
Then there are those who seem to love it when Honda stumbles. If they have a recall over something, they make sure the world knows about it etc.
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Re: rorr [hayneldan] by dennisctc
Aug 09, 2005 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: hayneldan (Aug 09, 2005 3:16 pm)

I know Frank Marcus has engineering background and worked for DCX, he was with Car & Driver, now I think he's at Motor Trends as Technical Editor?
 
Still, not all do and it's mostly personal opinion. I for one don't put too many people on pedestals, they put their pants on the same way we all do. I also happen to have engineering degree....SO WHAT!!!!
 
And look at some of the track records, like Motor Trends "COY" award...they pick some really great losers!!!!
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Re: So many 05 Odyssey racalls making me nervous [isellhondas] by dennisctc
Aug 09, 2005 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Aug 09, 2005 5:34 pm)

Ohhhh boo hoo hoo, Honda guys don't hold back with "My Oddy is 1.5 secs faster to 60 mph" or "so and so magazine loves Oddy's" or "Oddys handle like sports cars" and on and on and on!!!!!!
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Re: So many 05 Odyssey racalls making me nervous [rorr] by vrm
Aug 09, 2005 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: rorr (Aug 09, 2005 5:50 am)


You expect it because it's a Honda. And when you don't get, the vehicle gets slammed in a JD Powers survey. And that is why I don't take their survey results on face value.

 
All new vehicles have defects. The important factor is the number and type of defects.
 
When I pay $30K for a vehicle, I do NOT expect:
 
-the vehicle to be recalled 2+ times within 6 months.
-the battery to lose charge or be defective after 2500 miles
-steering wheel vibration at 60 mph
-check engine light to go on after leaving the dealership
 
More importantly, I do not expect a
 
If owners have *problems* with vehicles, those problems are reflected in the JD Power Initial Quality Survey. The survey does not reflect "expectations" but the number of defects in a new vehicle. Get it?
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Re: So many 05 Odyssey racalls making me nervous [vrm] by davant
Aug 09, 2005 (9:29 pm)
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Replying to: vrm (Aug 09, 2005 7:39 pm)

My $.02 not that anyone asked. Let's all get over that price equates to quality with the comment that you should expect fewer problems because it's a $30K vehicle. As was pointed out, hop over to the exotics forums and it gets worse as price goes up or only the unhappy ones show up. Using that logic, the entry level Kia (longest warranty) should have the most or worst problems and Bentley or Ferrari owners should have none. What these extreme ends of the food chain do share is that neither come to Edmunds to write about it, not even their parents or servants. Realize that as also pointed out quite well, you expect quality because it is a Honda! Perhaps Honda is an acronym for Honda Odysseyfans Need Darnreliable Automobiles? If the same vehicle were rebadged as Acura and added massaging heated & cooled seats, built in X-Box2/PS3, a fridge, a power lazy James (as opposed to a manual lazy Suzan), paper thin glovebox gaps, and even a fur lined gold trimmed coinholder, have an MSRP of $45K, we'd be having this same conversation but I'd still buy it. Maybe we should call it the Acura FL (Family Luxury) or since I live here, the 'Florida' model, LOL?
 
Truth is, the Ody is a great vehicle in a field of basically four (Sienna, Quest, T&C), IMO close to nearly as good. We're holding out for an '06 Touring mostly out of curiosity to see if minor QA problems, RF Tires, (depending on your engineering background read that as Run Flat, Radio Frequency, or Really Funky) are fixed and what other nits are resolved. It's interesting to see how JD and crew organize consumer feedback but it won't taint my buying decision nor will CR to a great extent or any collective set of individual 'expert' reviews. Take them, as mine as simply one persons opinion and find the vehicle you enjoy most.

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