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Replying to: ravichander (Aug 08, 2005 9:13 am)  ) and should definitely be revised to numbers that are!
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Replying to: mich_chow (Aug 06, 2005 9:23 pm) It is upto you if you want to believe or not believe the JP Power ratings. The JP Power rating simply reflects the view of the Ody owners. You will agree that the 2005 Ody has had lots of quality problems. Some folks consider these problems to be minor but others who have spent their hard earned money expect better quality from a $30K vehicle. Do let us know ultimately what you decide! Good Luck! |
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anyone gone on a long trip and used that little 8th seat yet??? have a chevy venture with 8 seats (only reason to buy GM back then!!) but GM in its infinite marketing wisdom no longer makes any minivans with 8 seats so its either the Sienna , which has a proper 8 th seat, or the Ody with that weird little thing. Sitting in the dealership and in it for a few miles the kids don;t seem to mind but wondering what its really like for prolonged periods. Seems like it can't possibly be as good as a "proper" seat.
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Replying to: dilbertzzz (Aug 08, 2005 10:07 am)  I have always been able to get better than EPA ratings by driving responsibly but Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Nevada, and Mojave Desert of California have long stretches of open road.  On the other hand, EPA City ratings are not so easily achieved if driving in stop and go traffic. It is virtually impossible to have identical driving situations in city driving. ( I quickly deleted posting # 4214 when I realized it was in the wrong forum).
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I still don't understand. Why would ody owners rate the ody body styling 2*. I wold think if you do not like the body styling you go buy something else that you like. Something iffy there. Looks like not all ratings are given by ody owners. Some may be given out by some independent judges/companies who get paid by Toyota? |
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Replying to: cptplt (Aug 08, 2005 3:53 pm) |
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We were interested in purchasing a 2005 Black Odyssey EX-L but were unable to find one in our area. It seems that Black is not a popular color and unless you are interested in the ubiquitous desert sand you are out of luck. We had great dealer quote ($27.7)and gave him a deposit but he was couldn't find one anywhere. Anyway he has now offered us a 2006 Black Odyssey for the same price plus the difference in invoice between 2005-2006. He claims it should only be about $300. Does this seem reasonable? Does anybody have any insight into what the invoice will be for the 2006? I can't seem to find anything on the internet about the 2006. Thanks.
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Replying to: vrm (Aug 08, 2005 3:34 pm) Precisely why I take their ratings with a large grain of salt. Yes, they reflect the views of owners. Owners aren't biased? If a buyer goes into a Honda purchase with a higher expectation than a buyer going into a Ford purchase, then it is entirely possible that the Honda could get more 'negative' reviews even if there are fewer ACTUAL problems. Why? Expectations. Given all the accolades the Ody received over the years, would you say that buyers of the redesigned 'new and improved' Ody would have had extremely high expectations? Given all the chest-beating in the various Ody forums prior to the '05 introduction, one would have gotten the impression from the various Ody fans that Honda was about to release a world-slayer minivan at least a full generation better than anything else on the planet. High expectations is an understatement. And then when people hear some minor whistling around some exterior trim pieces (just using this as an example), suddenly they're ready to string Honda up. "expect better quality from a $30K vehicle." For perspective - most of the items which people have complained about are found on every trim level of the Ody, from the base LX all the way up to the Touring. So, would you expect better quality from a $25k vehicle? Would you expect better quality from a $25k vehicle with as much content as an Odyssey? Or do you think that the line workers say, "Whups, here comes a Touring. Make sure you get all the parts out of the 'good' bin. Oh, good, there's an LX behind it. We can sleep through that one." Put it another way, check out all the complaints in the various BMW or MB "Problems and Solutions" threads. Seems as though some of the complaints found here can be found on vehicles costing more than $50k. In other words, you $30k isn't going to guarantee a perfect automobile. Why do owners expect it to? You expect it because it's a Honda. And when you don't get, the vehicle gets slammed in a JD Powers survey. And that is why I don't take their survey results on face value.
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