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Re: My gas mileage stinks. What is yours? [pcsr]
by sebring95
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Aug 08, 2005 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: pcsr (Aug 07, 2005 8:38 pm)
Our gas mileage had been so-so, but in the last couple weeks it jumped up a bit. We were averaging about 19-20mpg overall, generally a mix of town/rural/highway. Last two fillups have been 21.5mpg and 23mpg respectively. Last tank was about 20% town and 80% highway, plus it idled for about 1/2 hour at one point. These were with at least 4 passengers and the A/C running constant. I run 75-80mph on the highway. I've also noticed the VCM has been staying on more and the power seems a bit better. I was cruising at 75mph and even pulling some small hills with the cruise set and the VCM was active. We've crossed 4500 miles. Most of my cars in the past (with the exception of my diesel VW) barely average 24mpg so I'm pleased. Big vehicle with good power.
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- #4207 of 5148
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Re: My gas mileage stinks. What is yours? [sebring95]
by odymike
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Aug 08, 2005 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Aug 08, 2005 5:43 am)
I think it is too early to tell with our Ody. Only on third tank of fuel - didn't bother calculating the first tank - so much idle and show n' tell time. 2nd tank was 17.4 MPG (computer calc'd 17.1), 3rd tanks was 18.0 (computer calc'd 17.6) mostly urban with some highway miles. So at this point I am pleased with the improvement, and am still 'breaking it in.' One thing to note for all Ody owners is this, if you partake in utilizing the 255HP often - you will have horrible fuel mileage. No sticker value can save you from your own lead foot. The EPA test or whatever it is called numbers are done in a very controlled and conservative manner, and I believe the top speed is only 59.5 MPH for a very short distance. Also, I believe is was noted that the VCM will disengage at speeds in excess of 75 MPH - no surprise here. The Odyssey is a large vehicle, any object at speed will encounter a large amount of drag as it pushes away all of that air. So it only makes sense that more power and fuel is used.
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- #4208 of 5148
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Re: My gas mileage stinks. What is yours? [odymike]
by sebring95
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Aug 08, 2005 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: odymike (Aug 08, 2005 6:57 am)
VCM cuts off at 82mph. Cruising at 80mph the light stays on surprisingly often. I do use the pedal a lot, as with all my vehicles so I prefer to compare to what I've driven before. If my average stays in the 20-24mpg range, that's on-par with most of my cars so it's quite reasonable in my book. I think the EPA numbers are half bogus for anything with a less than conventional engine. I've always pegged the EPA figures fairly closely in the past, but with Hybrids and variable/multi displacement engines, I think they stroke the EPA guildlines a bit. The low-speeds the EPA tests use are easily manipulated with a non-conventional engine that performs drastically better at lower speeds than most folks drive on the highway.
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- #4209 of 5148
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Re: My gas mileage stinks. What is yours? [pcsr]
by ravichander
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Aug 08, 2005 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: pcsr (Aug 07, 2005 8:38 pm)
I am very, very angry at this. The 28 mpg highway was a key reason why I bought this dog.
My Accord 2000 barely gives 28-30 mpg in highway driving and it is only 155hp. You want a 255 hp large van to give 28 mpg? You must have known by now that the EPA estimates are unusually positive since it done at 55 m/h on cruise control with no AC. Do you drive like that? Or does anyone drive like the EPA driver? When the new methodology of EPA estimates are put in place, all vehicle mpg ratings will go down but they will look like real life numbers.
Tell me which comparable van (Sienna, T & C and Quest) gives 28 mpg on the highway consistently?
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- #4210 of 5148
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Re: My gas mileage stinks. What is yours? [ravichander]
by dilbertzzz
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Aug 08, 2005 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: ravichander (Aug 08, 2005 9:13 am)
I think the point is that the published figures are so very far from the real-world performance that folks are seeing. It doesn't hold water to use the EPA figures "only for comparison" if the comparison doesn't hold up because you have to do your own adjustments based on weight and engine hp. The numbers posted are not useful (for comparison or any other purpose except maybe raising customers' ire  ) and should definitely be revised to numbers that are!
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- #4212 of 5148
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Re: So many 05 Odyssey racalls making me nervous [mich_chow]
by vrm
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Aug 08, 2005 (3:34 pm)
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Replying to: mich_chow (Aug 06, 2005 9:23 pm)
Dear Mich:
It is upto you if you want to believe or not believe the JP Power ratings. The JP Power rating simply reflects the view of the Ody owners.
You will agree that the 2005 Ody has had lots of quality problems. Some folks consider these problems to be minor but others who have spent their hard earned money expect better quality from a $30K vehicle.
Do let us know ultimately what you decide! Good Luck!
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- #4213 of 5148
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8th seat
by cptplt
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Aug 08, 2005 (3:53 pm)
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anyone gone on a long trip and used that little 8th seat yet???
have a chevy venture with 8 seats (only reason to buy GM back then!!) but GM in its infinite marketing wisdom no longer makes any minivans with 8 seats so its either the Sienna , which has a proper 8 th seat, or the Ody with that weird little thing. Sitting in the dealership and in it for a few miles the kids don;t seem to mind but wondering what its really like for prolonged periods. Seems like it can't possibly be as good as a "proper" seat.
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Re: My gas mileage stinks. What is yours? [dilbertzzz]
by hansienna
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Aug 08, 2005 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: dilbertzzz (Aug 08, 2005 10:07 am)
I disagree. EPA Highway fuel ratings can very easily be achieved by driving within the posted speed limits under normal conditions. 
I have always been able to get better than EPA ratings by driving responsibly but Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Nevada, and Mojave Desert of California have long stretches of open road. 
On the other hand, EPA City ratings are not so easily achieved if driving in stop and go traffic. It is virtually impossible to have identical driving situations in city driving.
( I quickly deleted posting # 4214 when I realized it was in the wrong forum).
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