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Re: So many 05 Odyssey racalls making me nervous [vrm] by mich_chow
Aug 06, 2005 (9:23 pm)
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Replying to: vrm (Aug 06, 2005 6:35 pm)

I have not yet bought (paid for) the van, but still considering to buy. Here is why: I did a little more research and it looks like the JD Power ranking is based on consumer reports. Here is a quote from their site (one can follow the link Ratings guide to see this):
 
"J.D. Power and Associates does not provide "expert opinion." The firm provides "voice-of-the-customer" research based on actual survey responses from real consumers. Please keep in mind that high ratings do not necessarily mean that every consumer will have a positive experience with a particular product or service provider. It simply indicates that, on average, the product/service/company stands out when compared with other, similar products/services/companies."
 
Therefore, if the survey went to a group of people who were really unhappy, this could drag the ratings down a lot. And, who knows how many people they surveyed, and what geographical range, etc., etc., etc.
 
Therefore, I would probably not rely on their rating as much as I would like to rely on the many years long standing reliability of Honda. Granted, that no vehicle is perfect, and my next Honda may not be totally defect free, but the probability of having a mechanical problem of a Honda is smaller than some other (other than Toyota) maker. The other fact about JD Power ratings is also very disturbing (I don't know if it just plain mistake or intentional), which is they show that according to NHTSA, Toyota Sienna have a five start rating for frontal impact (driver), which is totally wrong, because NHTSA gave Toyota Sienna a four start rating on this, not a five star. Secondly, the picture of 2005 Honda Odyssey in their website is not even a 2005 model, it is more like a 2004 or something. (you can follow their link to New Vehicle Advisor and click on different vans once you select compact vans). So, I have already found two errors on JD Power's reports and web-site and now getting suspicious about their reports reliability!
 
To answer to some previous posts:
Dear jipster: I am not sure when this report was released for the 2005 Odyssey by JD Power, but you are correct that they did give 2004 a five star.
Dear isellhondas: I am not confusing the crash test ratings with JD Power rating (unless JD power did).
Dear minivanguy: I (and I am sure many others) have the same question as you do.
 
Here is one big ding to JD Power report (or rating, whatever you say), now that I am thinking more about it: they gave mechanical a four star, etc., and style a 2 star, right? Okay. But, if their research is totally based on "voice-of-the-customer" by actual survey responses from real consumers, then how can the style be rated only 2 star? Did all who responded to JD Power bought the vehicle who never liked the style to begin with? Would one buy something that looked a 2 star rating as far as style goes? I am really not believing their report!!!!
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J.D. Power test criteria by hayneldan
Aug 07, 2005 (7:27 am)
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http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/ratings/guide.jsp.
 
 Not so called experts but real owners!
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The Odyssey inventory in Salt Lake City area was MUCH higher than DC's by hansienna
Aug 07, 2005 (7:38 am)
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Before my posting that Honda dealers have more Odyssey than DC have, these were the numbers:
Wiley Honda had 8 Odysseys
Ken Garff had 7 Odysseys
...BUT
Ken Garff had 1 GC SE Plus
Ken Garff had ZERO T&C.
Doug Smith had ZERO T&C.
Doug Smith had ZERO Caravan/Grand Caravan
....( I did not check Larry H. Miller inventory for any brand and forgot all about Hinckley Dodge and Menlove Dodge since Menlove is usually known as Menlove Toyota )
      
Since there are 4 DC minivans sold for every Odyssey, the Odyssey inventory was much higher in the Salt Lake City area than that of DC minivans.
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Cdn buyer of ODY in US - warranty valid? by vanman12
Aug 07, 2005 (8:00 am)
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I'm in Cda and while inventory is ok there are better color combos and some other advantages to buying a US vehicle and cost after conversion makes it even more compelling to look at buying in US. Question is does the warranty cover anywhere it is owned/driven or would I have to pay for warranty work in Cda and then get reimbursed by Honda USA. Thinking of the buyer who took his to Germany...any problems? others who bought on one side of border and then moved to the other - any prob lems with warranty coverage? thanks
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Re: J.D. Power test criteria [hayneldan] by socalawd
Aug 07, 2005 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: hayneldan (Aug 07, 2005 7:27 am)

I am not suprised by a initial quality 90 day study that rates this new design low. There are alot of nagging issues with this car that are getting sorted out. Wind noise from some trim and seals, brake noise, and a few nagging issues. Honda has shown me in the past they want to fix these issues(Father had transmission inspected and even though it had no problems replaced it because wear on second gear was too excessive at almost 60K).The mechanicial quaility was a 4 out of 5. Now if you want a car that scores well on these type tests buy a Toyota of there 11 offerings 6 score a 5 of 5 in overall initial quality. I think the long term quality once the bugs are out will be up there with the best look at the 1999 and 2000 odyssey initial and longterm! BTW JDPowers did a 3 year study on vehicle dependability guess who won the minivan segment. The Ford Windstar let's all go out and buy one of them!!LOL
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Re: The Odyssey inventory in Salt Lake City area was MUCH higher than DC's [hansienna] by isellhondas
Aug 07, 2005 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: hansienna (Aug 07, 2005 7:38 am)

Interesting...I wish I had 100 sitting on my lot.
 
SLC...used to go there on business quite often. Market St. Fish Restaurant. Still there?
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Re: My gas mileage stinks. What is yours? [ctblumers] by pointatob
Aug 07, 2005 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: ctblumers (Aug 06, 2005 7:14 pm)

any luck with your gas mileage improving?
 
is your estimate based on the touring trip computer or are you calculating at fill-up?
 
that is a little concerning; i assume you drive in a lot of stop-n-go traffic?
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Gas mileage by rockycow33
Aug 07, 2005 (7:35 pm)
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I'm surprised the 05 with VCM doesn't seem to equal the mileage of the 99-2001 ody. I generally get 18 to 20 around town and just got back from a trip to San Antonio, Texas with 5 people and 250 pounds of luggage got 24 plus mpg for 1200 miles traveling around 75 mph. On the way back(two people and about 75 pounds of luggage from Amarillo to Denver went 488.7 miles and filled up with 18.27 gals. Very happy with this--had a tail wind. 26.7 mpg avg around 75 mph.
 
 Anyone getting the advertised mpg with the VCM or close to it?
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Re: My gas mileage stinks. What is yours? [ctblumers] by pcsr
Aug 07, 2005 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: ctblumers (Aug 06, 2005 7:14 pm)

Ours stinks too! 16-17 city/highway (my wife visits her Mom a lot which is 30 miles round trip, so we get a pretty good mixture of city/highway) and have not gotten over 23 highway.
 
I am very, very angry at this. The 28 mpg highway was a key reason why I bought this dog. Very unhappy with our purchase for a variety of reasons - road noise, engine noise, repeated trips to the dealer, and really bad gas mileage among them. Thanks.

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