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My gas mileage stinks. What is yours? by ctblumers
Aug 06, 2005 (7:14 pm)
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We get 13 mpg suburban/city and 21 highway. This seems terrible compared to the 20/28 advertised. Would appreciate if others would share what they get. Thanks.
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Re: '05 Odyssey Inventory Levels [isellhondas] by hansienna
Aug 06, 2005 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Aug 06, 2005 6:16 am)

Are MUCH higher on dealer lots in Salt Lake City area than those of Caravan/Grand Caravan and Town & Country. The Dodge and Chrysler dealers have NO new 2005 minivans on their lots.
      Last time I checked, all Honda dealers had a few Odysseys on their lots.
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Re: '05 Odyssey Inventory Levels [hansienna] by dilbertzzz
Aug 06, 2005 (7:51 pm)
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Replying to: hansienna (Aug 06, 2005 7:47 pm)

Yes, "Employee Pricing" has been a very successful sales tool for the "domestics." They are certainly
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Re: '05 Odyssey Inventory Levels [hansienna] by socalawd
Aug 06, 2005 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: hansienna (Aug 06, 2005 7:47 pm)

Are MUCH higher on dealer lots in Salt Lake City area than those of Caravan/Grand Caravan and Town & Country. The Dodge and Chrysler dealers have NO new 2005 minivans on their lots
 
Looked online and heres the breakdown of the 4 dealerships in Salt Lake City
2005 GRAND CARAVANS Available/I will call if you want LOL
Hinkley Dodge-9 Grand Caravans
Menlove Dodge- 5 Grand Caravans
Ken Garff- 1 Grand Caravan
Larry Miller- 4 Grand Caravans
 
Most are SE's but there are some out there!! Go get um HANS!!!
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Re: '05 Odyssey Inventory Levels [socalawd] by nwng
Aug 06, 2005 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: socalawd (Aug 06, 2005 8:01 pm)

ouch, another one
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damn these ratings! how many are there? by 2005odyelrn
Aug 06, 2005 (8:38 pm)
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that JD powerthing is pure BS. Everything is based on their own study????
For sure ody'05 has problems! But I think they are minor. If DC or TW owner need to take comfort from that, let it be!
I know from my exp all vehicles have problems. The recalls or anything else that has been dicussed in these forums are minor. I own Toyota as well as Honda. Both of them have their own problems. Since ody 2005 is a new vehicle and there is a lot of talk and expectation about it. Some has to do with the latest technology adopted. Lot of technology lot of problems. Look at that site for other car/van ratings. I am sure people will have surprizes. That's why people do not check that site may be. I never heard of this site before.
 
anyway one more site to look at I guess! Add more to the confusion.... Welcome to the new way of buying car!
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Re: So many 05 Odyssey racalls making me nervous [vrm] by minivanguy
Aug 06, 2005 (8:47 pm)
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Replying to: vrm (Aug 06, 2005 6:35 pm)

I wonder how this one company can rate the Honda so bad, and just about every other company rate it good.
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Re: So many 05 Odyssey racalls making me nervous [vrm] by mich_chow
Aug 06, 2005 (9:23 pm)
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Replying to: vrm (Aug 06, 2005 6:35 pm)

I have not yet bought (paid for) the van, but still considering to buy. Here is why: I did a little more research and it looks like the JD Power ranking is based on consumer reports. Here is a quote from their site (one can follow the link Ratings guide to see this):
 
"J.D. Power and Associates does not provide "expert opinion." The firm provides "voice-of-the-customer" research based on actual survey responses from real consumers. Please keep in mind that high ratings do not necessarily mean that every consumer will have a positive experience with a particular product or service provider. It simply indicates that, on average, the product/service/company stands out when compared with other, similar products/services/companies."
 
Therefore, if the survey went to a group of people who were really unhappy, this could drag the ratings down a lot. And, who knows how many people they surveyed, and what geographical range, etc., etc., etc.
 
Therefore, I would probably not rely on their rating as much as I would like to rely on the many years long standing reliability of Honda. Granted, that no vehicle is perfect, and my next Honda may not be totally defect free, but the probability of having a mechanical problem of a Honda is smaller than some other (other than Toyota) maker. The other fact about JD Power ratings is also very disturbing (I don't know if it just plain mistake or intentional), which is they show that according to NHTSA, Toyota Sienna have a five start rating for frontal impact (driver), which is totally wrong, because NHTSA gave Toyota Sienna a four start rating on this, not a five star. Secondly, the picture of 2005 Honda Odyssey in their website is not even a 2005 model, it is more like a 2004 or something. (you can follow their link to New Vehicle Advisor and click on different vans once you select compact vans). So, I have already found two errors on JD Power's reports and web-site and now getting suspicious about their reports reliability!
 
To answer to some previous posts:
Dear jipster: I am not sure when this report was released for the 2005 Odyssey by JD Power, but you are correct that they did give 2004 a five star.
Dear isellhondas: I am not confusing the crash test ratings with JD Power rating (unless JD power did).
Dear minivanguy: I (and I am sure many others) have the same question as you do.
 
Here is one big ding to JD Power report (or rating, whatever you say), now that I am thinking more about it: they gave mechanical a four star, etc., and style a 2 star, right? Okay. But, if their research is totally based on "voice-of-the-customer" by actual survey responses from real consumers, then how can the style be rated only 2 star? Did all who responded to JD Power bought the vehicle who never liked the style to begin with? Would one buy something that looked a 2 star rating as far as style goes? I am really not believing their report!!!!
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J.D. Power test criteria by hayneldan
Aug 07, 2005 (7:27 am)
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http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/ratings/guide.jsp.
 
 Not so called experts but real owners!
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The Odyssey inventory in Salt Lake City area was MUCH higher than DC's by hansienna
Aug 07, 2005 (7:38 am)
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Before my posting that Honda dealers have more Odyssey than DC have, these were the numbers:
Wiley Honda had 8 Odysseys
Ken Garff had 7 Odysseys
...BUT
Ken Garff had 1 GC SE Plus
Ken Garff had ZERO T&C.
Doug Smith had ZERO T&C.
Doug Smith had ZERO Caravan/Grand Caravan
....( I did not check Larry H. Miller inventory for any brand and forgot all about Hinckley Dodge and Menlove Dodge since Menlove is usually known as Menlove Toyota )
      
Since there are 4 DC minivans sold for every Odyssey, the Odyssey inventory was much higher in the Salt Lake City area than that of DC minivans.

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