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We're trying desperately to buy a 2005 EX-L with DVD/NAV. We got a great price from one dealer, but got an even better price from a second one ($34,243 out the door), plus the first closer dealer had no service loaners, which was important to us. The first dealer wouldn't budge on the second dealer's price, but told us they could find us the color we wanted in 24 hours. The second dealer said they're lying, that it could take up to two weeks to find the color. We signed a contract and left a deposit, with them telling us it would be UP to two weeks, but most probably much sooner. Now they tell us they're having a very difficult time finding other dealers with any of the four color choices we've given them, and if they do find one, the dealer won't give it up. They wouldn't even look for a vehicle at another's lot without a deposit. They take a complete day to give us an answer on anything, and WE are the ones that have to call them back repeatedly. At this point, they are waiting to hear back from another dealer that has a the model we want in our first color choice that came off the line yesterday, and should be delivered in 2-3 weeks. We really didn't want to wait that long, plus this isn't a sure thing either. So .... Now we're considering moving up to the Touring DVD/NAV, which the second dealer said would be additional $4K out the door. We would jump at this, but are so very concerned about the PAX tires. That's the ONLY reason we're not interested in the Touring. I've read that they've needed to be replaced at 13K or 14K miles and had a cost of $1200 for all four tires. Plus they can't be swapped out. How ridiculous! Are the EX-Ls with DVD/NAV *that* hard to find? We live in New Jersey. Are the PAX tires as bad as I've read? I'm at my wit's end. We have a substantial down payment. We have our own financing. All we want to do is purchase a vehicle. How hard is it? 
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Re: PAX tires on Touring "I've read that they've needed to be replaced at 13K or 14K miles...." I know that the run-flat tires on the Sienna (Dunlops I believe) have shown some really bad wear problems; but I haven't heard this about the PAX tires as fit to the Ody Touring. Not all RFT's have the same wear. Are you sure you read these mileage results on the PAX tires? "...and had a cost of $1200 for all four tires." I know they're steep, but I didn't think they were THIS steep. The biggest concern I would have would be availability, particularly since the Ody Touring is the only vehicle sold in the U.S. with this type and size tire. Which leads us to... "Plus they can't be swapped out." Correct. PAX rims will only accept PAX tires. (and Michelin doesn't make any PAX snow tires either). There is some debate about whether or not PAX rims can be swapped with 'normal' Ody rims. Personally, unless you really really want the power adjustable pedals, memory seat, MID, and power tailgate, I'd stick with the EX-L. But that's just my preference..... "We signed a contract and left a deposit....." "They wouldn't even look for a vehicle at another's lot without a deposit." 
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Replying to: rorr (Aug 01, 2005 11:42 am) They told us they wouldn't even look for a vehicle for us on another lot until we gave them a deposit (they didn't have any EX-Ls with DVD/NAV on the lot). They did assure us they *could* get one, they just couldn't guarantee that it would be less than two weeks delivery. Their explanation for not even looking before deposit was that they would have to swap out a vehicle with another dealer to get a EX-L with DVD/NAV for us. Wrong? I just don't understand the dragging of the feet. The first dealer we dealt with (the one that wouldn't drop $500 in price to match the second dealer, nor would give us a service loaner for warranty repair) was beyond anxious to get the deal done and closed before the end of this past month. The second dealer STILL hasn't given us an answer as to WHEN we can expect a vehicle. The only options that we are interested in with the Touring are the backup/corner sensors (really just the corner sensors, since we'll get the backup camera with NAV and the dealer option for sensors in the EX-L is only backup sensors, or so I've read), the power liftgate, the 115 volt outlet, fog lamps, the console tray for the 2nd row instead of the Plus One seat and the black leather interior, and *possibly* the dimming rear view mirror. I was heartbroken when I found out I could only get black leather on the Touring. The only option that we'd consider adding on an EX-L is the foglamps though .... all the others were just gravy. |
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After doing the dealership shuffle we have purchased a 2005 EX for $300 under invoice. I am happy with the deal even though Toyota seemed more willing to work with us, we wanted the Odyssey. Wife thought she wanted the Caravan. Sto N Go seems to woo the soccer mom crowd. Had to drag her to Honda, but she changed her mind. Time will tell... our first Honda.
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Replying to: wolfsong (Aug 01, 2005 11:22 am) I bought my Touring there at invoice in February. There is nothing "bad" about PAX tires. True, they have some drawbacks but, at least in my mind, those are more than offset by their advantages. They ride quite well too. |
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Replying to: mwdream (Aug 01, 2005 5:22 pm)
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Replying to: wolfsong (Aug 01, 2005 11:22 am) Are the EX-Ls with DVD/NAV *that* hard to find? We live in New Jersey. I'm shopping for identical vehicle in NJ right now. I found 3 or 4 dealers with 1 or 2 such vehicles on their lots, and several other dealers expecting them in next 2-4 weeks. Your price seems good. I negotiated an out the door price of $34,020 with a little help from a connection to the general manager of the dealership. |
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Replying to: momof4girls (Aug 01, 2005 8:54 pm) MSRP: $28,195 Invoice: $25,367 Bought it from Palm Harbor Honda http://palmharborhonda.com/ in Florida. It was the last day of the month so maybe they needed the sale ? |
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Replying to: mwdream (Aug 01, 2005 5:22 pm)  I was ready to buy a new Odyssey EX but now am undecided for 3 reasons: #1. All 2005 Ody due in have a deposit placed on them. #2. Salesman can not give pricing data on 2006 and said they will have lower discount than now...or none at all. #3. The Sienna I test drove was MUCH more responsive than the Ody I drove 30 minutes later. The Sienna transmission more quickly responded and the acceleration was much better in the Sienna. 
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Glad someone is getting good prices on 2005 Odyssey as most dealers are not even going half-way between invoice and MSRP I am very interested to find out where in the US are you not paying around invoice for an 05 ex. Well, maybe hawaii or alaska
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