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by stickguy
Sep 14, 2004 (12:04 pm)
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I think the pistons are still going up and down (or "boing boing" according to the old Mazda ads), but the intake valves no longer open. Not sure about the exhaust valves. Not sure if this means it must be non-interference or not.
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stickguy by rorr
Sep 14, 2004 (1:11 pm)
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Thanks - I think I just answered my own question. If the VCM works by keeping the intake valves closed (no feeding therefore no 'splosion), then obviously the pistons CAN'T hit the intake valves.
 
I guess then I'm curious about the exhaust valves. Wouldn't there be some pretty heavy pumping losses with the intake valves shut on the intake stroke? What am I missing? Do the exhaust valves stay open so the piston isn't trying to pull a vacumn during the intake stroke? This would certainly be noisy; I can understand then the noise which ANC is supposed to cancel out.
 
I wonder if VCM works when sitting at idle and what it sounds like to the other vehicles in the drive-thru lane. It may be perfectly serene inside your van with the windows up and the ANC working as advertised. Meanwhile, the other drivers are wondering when Honda started equipping minivans with diesels.....
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Re: stickguy [rorr] by robertsmx
Sep 14, 2004 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: rorr (Sep 14, 2004 1:11 pm)

You can watch a video on how VCM works... here.
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Re: stickguy [robertsmx] by rorr
Sep 14, 2004 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 14, 2004 1:24 pm)

Okay, that's great, but I don't understand Japanese. Which valves are shut down during VCM operation and how does Honda eliminate pumping losses?
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Re: Great, now bring us the diesel, please! [inky4] by ahous
Sep 14, 2004 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: inky4 (Sep 14, 2004 4:37 am)

inky4, I meant a CTDi version of the Ody. Perhaps around 2.7-2.8L. The Accord 2.2 would be great too of course, but a diesel Ody is what I need.
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Re: Dealership [65times] by lumbar
Sep 14, 2004 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: 65times (Sep 14, 2004 11:51 am)

Congrats on the van. If I may ask, how do you arrive at the price on such a "pre-order"? Was it open ended based on an unknown MSRP?
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Re: Price for 05 [amykkbc] by jimxo
Sep 14, 2004 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: amykkbc (Sep 14, 2004 12:12 am)

No I'm not a dealer this is what I have heard from a reliable source.
 
Jack up price? Only Honda sets the sales price.
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by steve_ HOST
Sep 14, 2004 (2:30 pm)
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Honda USA just sets the suggested retail price. The dealers can mark it up or down (yeah, right <g>) from there.
 
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Re: Quieter ride? [hondasales76] by rrs
Sep 14, 2004 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: hondasales76 (Sep 14, 2004 8:06 am)

During your test drive did you notice how the "walk-in" feature of the second row seats works? Do they tumble forward like the Sienna or just slide up? Thanks.
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Re: Pricing 05 Ody? [indy93] by koobiidoobii
Sep 14, 2004 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: indy93 (Sep 13, 2004 8:26 pm)

Keep in mind that the Sienna Xle Limited has sunroof, smart cruise control and HID headlite standard that are not available on the Honda.

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