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Honda Odyssey, Van
Sep 18, 2004 (6:02 pm)
I know a few Toyota owners who switched to Honda because they found them more trouble-free. If you go to the Camry, 4Runner, Sienna, etc room you will find people who have problems just like Ody, Accord, and Civic owners. I have had lots-o-Hondas and have had VERY good luck with them although my 97 RAV4 was bullet-proof as well. As far as the older Toyotas I have owned ..
1995 GS300 - bought at 135,000 miles. Climate control lights went out, leaked power steering fluid, and the power tilt/telescopic wheel stopped working.
1991 Toyota MR2 - my husband had this car before he met me but at 20,000 miles or so the turbos failed and he had to have them replaced.
1987 Toyota Camry - My mother-in-law bought a new one in 87 and had her head gasket fail at 17,000 miles
None of the above are major problems but it does show that no car is perfect. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Toyota though nor would I hesitate to buy an Odyssey. Although I do normally like to wait a few months into production before I buy a brand new model. But our 03 Accord coupe bought in December (new model was introduced in September) was perfect in the 16,000 miles we owned it before trading it for a sedan out of necessity.
#218 of 5190 Purchased an EX-L RES
Sep 18, 2004 (6:31 pm)
Test drove an '05 Odyssey home last night. My wife and I both loved it. Spent all day today trying to get the best deal in North Atlanta.
The EX-L RES MSRP lists at 32400. Two dealers would not even talk about reducing their prices which were MSRP plus $1700. Two other dealers did negotiate. I ended up buying one for MSRP, though it wasn't easy.
Bottom line - be willing to shop around, as you would for any vehicle. I might have even done better if I threatened to buy a SIENNA as a negotiating tactic. (P.S. I don't think the SIENNA comes close to the ODY)
#219 of 5190 Re: 10 days a year? [alexmish]
Sep 18, 2004 (6:42 pm)
Absolutely untrue. Here in Western PA, interstates are curved and hilly--not to mention the secondary roads. I appreciate the advantage of my Sienna's AWD every time I drive in the rain, not just ice and snow. While it's true that traction control makes a difference on a FWD model, it is no substitute for AWD. My previous Sienna was FWD with traction control, and I had trouble getting up a substantial grade in snowy conditions (even with four snow tires). The traction control would kick in and bog down my momentum. But it never happens with the AWD van. And with the Blizzak's I've ordered, it'll be virtually unstoppable this winter.
Honda loyalists in this forum are defending the '05 Odyssey's lack of AWD by declaring it's unnecessary. I predict Honda will sell all the AWD's it can make as soon as the company realizes this glaring omission in its product line-up.
#220 of 5190 Re: Test drove the Touring and got some MSRPs [kixo]
Sep 18, 2004 (7:19 pm)
Thanks a lot for posting those comparative MSRPs--illustrating once and for all that this talk about a "small" increase from '04 was a crock.
I trust Honda knows their market well enough to know people will pay it, and I certainly hope that those who do enjoy their vehicles, but, at 31K for an EX-L, I can't imagine being one of them. You've saved me a trip to the dealer.
Sep 18, 2004 (7:26 pm)
Live in Boston suburbs, and drive a '00 ODY EX and have never gotten stuck. Several warm memories of others unable to drive uphill, or just stuck, while I drove by without a glitch. You can see the Traction Control light come on when you drive on snowy, or slippery surfaces, and it works great! Descriptions of it bogging down don't apply.
#222 of 5190 Re: 10 days a year? [heywood1]
Sep 18, 2004 (7:27 pm)
So you would argue against buying a FWD Sienna as well?
Sep 18, 2004 (8:17 pm)
Honda sold lots of Odysseys without AWD and Toyota sells plenty of Siennas that are not AWD. Toyota has made AWD vans in the past (Previa anyone) and they made up a small percentage of overall sales. Toyota also attempted to market AWD in it's cars with the Camry and Celica All-trac. Very slow sellers although I'm sure the car mags and the one's who bought them thought they were the best thing since sliced bread.
Not everyone lives in the snow belt and AWD is all but useless here in the SE where a good set of all-season tires with lots of tread will get you through all four seasons without issue. The driver skill probably makes more difference in the inclement weather than any AWD system ever will.
hlefty: Which dealer in Atlanta did you purchase from?
#224 of 5190 Re: Pricing 05 Ody? [dinky100]
Sep 18, 2004 (8:59 pm)
Hey...I'm in CO, too...South Suburban Denver. I have my car ordered from Schomp...Where did you go? I was there on Friday night driving the Touring model that they had (Midnight Blue).
#225 of 5190 Re: Pricing 05 Ody? [mochisushi]
Sep 18, 2004 (9:08 pm)
I actually went down to Vidmar in Pueblo. Willing to negotiate, and no horrible wait to get into finance! Painless! I got it at 1000K UNDER MSRP for a EXL- RES-- (midnight blue as a matter of fact!) I can't wait to drive it again tomorrow!
I'm in Colorado Springs-- and I must say that TEAM HONDA hasn't been any help (in a number of issues). I would recommend that EVERYONE go to Vidmar -- such a pleasant buying experience!
#226 of 5190 Re: all wheel drive [karan]
Sep 18, 2004 (9:16 pm)
I live in CO. I actually like the fact that the Odyssey only has the traction control. I live in CO-- never have needed anything more than the traction control (I figure if the roads are that bad-- I'll stay home) All the AWD seems to do is bring down the gas milage.