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#48 of 643 Just got an '05 Cayenne S for $5K off MSRP
Dec 24, 2004 (12:50 am)
Just picked up a 2005 Cayenne S at a pretty good price (I think), $5K off MSRP. I saw that jimvee got $7K off MSRP in Florida, but that was for 2004 model during late 2004. This is a 2005 model, purchased in 2004, and in the Bay Area.
Anyway, I talked to a few other dealerships and this is the best price I got. The place is Carlsen Porsche in Redwood City. The sales guy is super pleasant, down-to-earth, and straighforward (not salesy), and knows a lot about the car. I can't name names here, but just use the Edmunds free dealer quote, check Carlsen Porsche and you will be fine (heck, check on other dealers too for good measure). Supposedly this is one of the two largest dealers in Silicon Valley, and hence they got better pricing (The other big dealer in SV is Stevens Creek - but they are way stuck up and won't deal the price much.)
Kaipingma, as for figuring invoice prices, it is about 84% of MSRP (depends on the specific options). I verified it when I purchased this sweet Cayenne S.
Not sure about the V6 pricing, but I noticed there are many more V6's on the parking lot than V8's, so the pricing should be a bit better. But I say go for the V8. Good luck!
#49 of 643 Just picked up 05 Cayenne V6
Dec 31, 2004 (8:00 pm)
Picked up my Cay this evening. Lots of people buying/picking up cars today. My appointment was scheduled on 11:30pm, postponed to 2:30pm because car was not ready. Long waiting here and there. Finally drove off the parking lot at 6:00pm. Both headlights have condensation. Dealer says it's normal. But I saw same issues posted on the other board. Guess I will need to take the car back and bug them.
MSRP is $54195. Invoice is $47221. Paid $1500 over invoice + tax and fees. This is in the Bay Area. I got 3 dealers to offer me this price and I chose the closet one (Fremont, CA)
BTW, one of the fees I paid is called "Optional DMV Electronic Filing Fee", which is $28. No dealers ever mentioned this fee to me during negotiation. (I always asked out-the-door price to avoid any hidden fee.) Did anyone also pay this fee? Is this bogus?
#50 of 643 Great Buying Experience
Jan 01, 2005 (6:59 pm)
Just bought a Cayenne at Porsche of Nashua, NH. Great experience: large inventory, brand new facility, nice people, no hidden tricks, and no suggestion let alone pressure to buy mop 'n glo products, extended care insurance, etc. I recommend them highly. The buying experience was a lot like going to a expensive men's shop like Paul Stuart or the old Brooks Bros. to buy a custom suit: pleasant, professional people who knew their business, great coffee, nice atmosphere, etc. I even got to see them prep Ralph Lauren's new Carrera for delivery.
Porsche of Nashua offers two features I hadn't found elsewhere. Your sales person will be your point of contact on service/warranty work and they offer complimentary, comparable loaners (you pay for the gas though). These are two nice touches. Maybe our local Volvo dealer would have gotten an XC90 sale if his sales people (we currently have a XC70) ran interference with the service writers. (Sorry guys, that last botched warranty job didn't thrill us.)
We pulled up by appointment at 9:00 AM on Friday to get the end of year, Section 179 deal, chose a car and were out in an hour. We pick the car up this Tuesday.
While I know that 50% of Porsche sales are Cayennes, I am still surprised that Porsche isn't selling as many of these V6s as they can build. Afterall, the pricing is comparable if not lower than the 3.0 X5, the product is newer and better, and the buying/ownership experience more pleasant. Where would you want to have a warranty issue: at a very busy, high volume BMW store or a Porsche store trying to grow the line? Which car will have better resale in three years, a freshly styled V6 Cayenne or an outdated, old-style X5? One thing holding the Cayenne back is the tendency of some dealers to put 10K of options onto the V6s. This results in a 55K MSRP. They might as well post directions to the local BMW store at that point.
Three questions. What do we do about the front end film protection. Go for RoadBlock (425 221 5352; RoadBlock.com) for $350 for the full front end and bumpers kits and have it installed by a local body shop? Or do we go for X-Pel (X-Pel.com) for quite a bit more money and have it installed by an X Pel trained installer? Maybe if we have the X Pel guy install it he, who presumably buys the kit at a discount, will discount the product to get the labor? We plan on keeping the vehicle for 10 years or so. In our experience, in New England that means having the front hood repainted a couple or three times.
My second question refers to oil changes. I know that various dealers say that on the V6, you can wait until 15K or so to do the oil. This to me is crazy. Sure, the Mobil 1 is good oil but it gets dirty like any other oil. And, like all new engines, there must be some machining chips still in the engine. Shouldn't I do a change at 3K or so to get the assembly crap out it? Is an oil change difficult on a Cayenne, i.e., are there protective guards that must be removed?
Finally, whats with using synthetic on an unbroken-in engine? The prevailing wisdom in the engine business (see Tech Bulletins by the Automotive Engine Rebuilders Association) is not to break in an engine in with synthetics because they won't allow for enough friction for the rotating/moving parts to get acquainted.
#51 of 643 Re: Great Buying Experience [blckislandguy]
Jan 04, 2005 (9:43 am)
congrats on your cayenne...
1- front end film , is the way to go, IMO. It protects the paint without destroying the looks/ style of the vehicle. I had mine done for $500 including labor...with double layer on the headlights. He also did the door ends that swings out and may get chipped on mailboxes and trees, and the two side view mirrors. Forgot which brand he used....
2- there are a few protective shrouds that are easily removed to get to the drain plug. Yes, the first recommended oil change is at 15,000 miles....though I changed mine at 9000 due to the same concerns that you raised. At 3000 the oil still looked new. Maybe the oil filter does most of the cleaning of the oil. I changed the oil again at 15000 miles. It only has 16000 now.
I read in the cayenne book (yes, they have a hard bound book) that the engine is hand assembled using the closest tolerances . After the engine is assembled, it is bench tested for horsepower....something other car makers do NOT do.
3- so maybe the engine components are well acquainted with each other , so that a more lubricating oil is good enough.. ..... In fact, that syn oil may extend the life of your hand assembled engine.
I think AMG of Mercedes also hand assembles their engines ......
Jan 07, 2005 (8:12 am)
I think your concerns about oil changes, break-in oil, synthetic in new engines, etc... are a little out of date..
The new engines come ready to go, right out of the box (so to speak)..
However, I grew up (probably as you did) with 3K oil changes being the bible of car maintenance.. My current car also calls for 15K changes of synthetic motor oil... Since I can't completely disregard my upbringing, I compromise by changing every 7500 miles..
No good reason.. just makes me feel better, and since we put about 15K per year on the car, it only runs me about $90/yr. extra to do it..
#53 of 643 Loaded Up V-6s
Jan 14, 2005 (9:57 am)
Blckislandguy is right - the V-6s I looked at have on average another $10k worth of stuff loaded on to them (as opposed to the $3-4k worth I wanted), the dealers are just greedy. Had the same buying experience when I looked at Boxsters and consequently bought something else.
#54 of 643 Cayenne seat quality
Jan 19, 2005 (7:42 pm)
I need a great orthopedic seat. How is the driver seat in the V6? I'm considering the XC90 because the Swedes seem to put a lot of time into their seat design and build. Thanks, Roger
#55 of 643 Re: Cayenne seat quality [emersongs]
Jan 20, 2005 (7:15 pm)
Regrettably, the Volvo seats are a little bit better. We have a XV70 and the seats are superior to the Cay V6 but only marginally so. The headrests are much better though. The distance from the base of the driver's head to the headrest is closer on the Volvo. Much closer. This I think will minimize whip lash. The Porsche head rest is not as sculpted as the Volvo or the Saab and I think that the driver's head could travel 6" to 8" before making contact and then dribble back and forth.
#56 of 643 Re: Just picked up 05 Cayenne V6 [kaipingma]
Jan 27, 2005 (2:50 am)
Electronic fee was bogus! Finance mgr usually adds it on at last minute when it's not enough to back out on.
You still did good I only got 4000 off msrp...wife got caught up in emotion.
#57 of 643 Oil Change Sugguestions
Jan 27, 2005 (10:53 am)
my cayenne has about 11K miles and i am due for a oil change. The dealers around my area wants to charge me anywhere from $250-$325 for oil/air filter change. Should I change the oil myself? What oil is recommended? Anyone done this themselve? thanks!