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Re: Speeding ticket in Wayne NJ 73 in a 55 zone [clelih] by rs79
Apr 13, 2009 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: clelih (Apr 08, 2009 1:14 pm)

what you need to do is just go to court and meet with the mediator or person you see before you are called by the judge (ask if you are not given instructions). And you need to ask to plea 'driving in an unsafe manner' or a no points violation. You will pay a lot more in cash to do so- -but worth it not to have the points. You should be fine, I've been through it 2 times in the past 13 years.
 
HOWEVER- if this is not your first time pleading this you may have an issue like I do now. Now i heard somewhere that it takes at least 4 years after 'using' this action in order to use it again-- but I"m going through the process now where in 2004 I 'used it', and just recently (court date was in january of this year) paid $600 in cash to have the 12mph over speed limit points reduced to another plea. They said it should be ok, however I just learned a couple of days ago i have 4 points on my license. I went to the courthours tonight actually and asked--- a laywer told me as of recently the DMV wll still slap the points on IF you have used it in the past. And if this is the case, I would need to reopen the case and have it appealed - that it usually goes through the 2nd time. But i have yet to experience this--my first step is to get the DMV report and see what court code the points are associated with.
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Re: Speeding ticket in Wayne NJ 73 in a 55 zone [rs79] by fezo
Apr 13, 2009 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: rs79 (Apr 13, 2009 4:01 pm)

Wow. That's a new one to me.
 
The two times I did this were within 4 years of each other but a fairly long time ago.
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Can I bargain in Mount Olive by jbg3
Jun 18, 2009 (3:33 pm)
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I just got a ticket for "failure to keep right".
I turned into the left turn lane too soon - I was on the yellow hash marks before it was a turn lane. Sorry - I think it's a lame excuse of a ticket, but yes, I was wrong.
Does anyone know if it's worth going to traffic court to try to plea into something without points? I'm less concerned about the fine - although I don't even know what it is. But the 2 points will kill me. My record is clean otherwise. Help!
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Re: Can I bargain in Mount Olive [jbg3] by fezo
Jun 19, 2009 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: jbg3 (Jun 18, 2009 3:33 pm)

Wow. That's a tough one. For two points at least you should get your money's worth and drive on the sidewalk. To show how silly the points can get, driving on the sidewalk is only two points but impr5oper passing of an ice cream truck is four point.
 
Anyway, I'm with you - the points would drive me crazy. I'd go in and try to plead down to something like failure to observe sign which is a no point. Yeah, you pay money up front but I'd love not having the points.
 
There's no guarantee going in that you'll have a deal but the odds are in your favor. The one negative I see is that the cop sounds like maybe a hard ass. I had one of those once. In the end he signed off on it but kicked up the cost.
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Re: Can I bargain in Mount Olive [fezo] by jbg3
Jun 19, 2009 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Jun 19, 2009 10:00 am)

Worst case scenario - if they won't plead it down, do I get hit with extra court fees? Or is it the same as if I paid it out from the start? I hate this - I've never gone through this before and I'm 36.
If I end up with the points, and take one of those defensive driving courses that takes points off, does it still stay on my record? How does that work? It's $50 to take the course online and get 2 points taken off, so dollar value wise, is it the equivalent of a no-point fine that costs $50 more? Or does that make a big difference?
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Re: Can I bargain in Mount Olive [jbg3] by fezo
Jun 19, 2009 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: jbg3 (Jun 19, 2009 10:12 am)

Unfortunately you're beyond my expertise here. I'm not a lawyer or anything - just someone who discovered this trick.
 
They will nail you for court costs just for bringing it into court unless you managed to beat it down to a not guilty which isn't likely.
 
My biggest question would be will your insurance company leave your rates alone if you go and take the course. To me what they'd do to your rates is the big concern.

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