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Re: Ins points are just another way [cadillacmike] by qbrozen
Apr 27, 2005 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: cadillacmike (Apr 27, 2005 10:29 am)

Funny you should say that. Yes, in the case of these points staying on your insurance for so long, I believe we can blame the insurance companies. BUT, interestingly (or aggravatingly) enough, insurance SURCHARGES are actually charged by the state! I didn't know this until about 5 years ago or so when I received a bill stating that I had to send money to Trenton for this so-called insurance surcharge. I called to inquire what this was about. Again, they explained it as an insurance surcharge. When I asked why the bill didn't come from my insurance company, I was told because my insurance company is not the one charging me, but the state is!! Needless to say, I tore into this poor woman who had absolutely nothing to do with creating these ridiculous rules. So.... short of it is .... the insurance surcharge in NJ has absolutely NOTHING to do with insurance.
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First speeding ticket!! And panicking!! by jewelz129
Apr 27, 2005 (6:04 pm)
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I recently got my first speeding ticket.. for doing 39 in a 25 . I hear that with the plead no points rule, i can lower my 2 pts down to 0 pts. Is this 100% guaranteed? How much will I end up paying?
 
Also, if I do get it lowered to 0 pts, will my insurance company find out? And increase my premium? And will my speed violation remain on my driving record?
 
Thank you so much for all your help everyone!
 
~worried
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Re: First speeding ticket!! And panicking!! [jewelz129] by qbrozen
Apr 28, 2005 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: jewelz129 (Apr 27, 2005 6:04 pm)

Just FYI, if you live in Jersey, 14 mph over is a 4-point ticket.
 
Nothing in life is guaranteed.
 
If you get points, yes, your insurance company will most definitely find out, yes, it will most definitely remain on your driving record, but will it increase your premium? All depends on the insurance company's rules.
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2 tickets, not sure of pts and ability to plea by ali_b
Apr 28, 2005 (7:27 pm)
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I recently got 2 tickets on Rt1 in North Brunswick on 4/09/05 and Ive already filed my not guilty plea with the court clerk there.
 
The first ticket is 80 in a 55 (Safe Zone)
I was observing local traffic patterns, and still going slower than many other drivers on the road. I wasnt going that fast, but I dont know how to prove it. Also, the Officer followed me in my blind spot for over 2 miles before he pulled me over, ignoring other drviers speeding past us on the right in favour of pursuing me. When I slowed down to let him pass (cuz I couldnt tell it was a cop- just some shadowy car in my blind spot) he slowed down as well, and when I tried to speed up to get over to the right myself, he would match my speed in my blind spot. I dont feel targeted, but I do feel that this was very unprofessional behavior esp considering he allowed other offenders traveling far faster than both of us to pass on the right. I have a witness in the car who could attest to these facts. Do I need to bring the witness to court with me? or can I just get a notarized letter from them?
 
Whats confusing is that the Statute violated on the Ticket is 4-98 which is only a 2pt violation, though it should have been statute 4-99 a 4 pt ticket (given my speed). Where does the Safe Corridor fine kick in? Will this be a 4pt or 2 pt ticket according to the miswritten statute? And how will the Safe Zone nature of the road section affect my ability to plead down to a no point offense?
 
The second ticket is Failure to Observe Signal (the light was yellow, he says it was red), and again I have a witness who can attest to that.
 
Advice? how should I proceed gathering information to tackle the tickets. I really cant afford any points. Though I have a clean driving record, I recently moved to NJ from NY and the insurance companies here are treating me like Im a 17 year old driver. Im paying more than $4000 a year for just me with no points. Id appreciate any help you could offer!! thank you thank you!!
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Re: 2 tickets, not sure of pts and ability to plea [ali_b] by qbrozen
Apr 29, 2005 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: ali_b (Apr 28, 2005 7:27 pm)

i don't know about these statute numbers, but, unless things have changed, the scale is usually based on how much over the speed limit you were travelling. Speeding is speeding, but the points can vary based on how excessive. Its been a few years since I received a ticket, but how it used to work is 1-9 mph over is 2 pts, 10-19 is 4, and 20+ is 5 and mandatory court appearance (if i'm remembering correctly). the safe corridor laws doubles fines in those areas.
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Re: 2 tickets, not sure of pts and ability to plea [qbrozen] by jewelz129
Apr 29, 2005 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Apr 29, 2005 6:23 am)

Actually I've looked up on the NJ DMV site, and 1-14mph over speed limit is 2 pts.
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Re: 2 tickets, not sure of pts and ability to plea [jewelz129] by qbrozen
Apr 29, 2005 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: jewelz129 (Apr 29, 2005 10:00 am)

hey, cool. you're right.
And 5 points doesn't happen till 30 mph over.
I can start driving faster! lol.
 
and now i see what the last poster was talking about in regards to the statute numbers.
 
for anyone else interested, here is the direct link:
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/cit_violations/d_vp_pnf.html
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Re: 2 tickets, not sure of pts and ability to plea [ali_b] by qbrozen
Apr 29, 2005 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: ali_b (Apr 28, 2005 7:27 pm)

so, based on those last couple of messages, I don't know what you should do. I mean, if they count it as 2 points and charge you as such, maybe you should cut your losses and pay the fine as is. I mean, bringing it to the attention of the court may just result in them "giving" you a plea bargain of 2-points. Maybe just call a lawyer and see if they'll give you advice over the phone? Because, heck, who knows? Maybe an error like that means the whole thing is thrown out?
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Please Help New Driver by jts3234
May 01, 2005 (8:42 pm)
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I recently got into an accident, i was driving behind and elder man, when he slowed his speed to make a turn. I never saw any blincker or brake lights, because the man was rolling and i dont think put on a blinker, i slammed my breaks and slide 15 feet and smacked into the back of him. I claimed all this in the police report, but i havent gotten the report yet, i was given a careless driving ticket for 2 points not at the scene, but with the report, that i still need to pick up. Yet i have only had my license for 8 months, is there any chance of getting my points of my license...because this is my first offense and because of the scenario.
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Question about Insurance! by mshah
May 01, 2005 (10:12 pm)
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Hi!
 
I'm a 21 year old resident of NJ, but I go to school in PA. A few weeks ago, I received a speeding ticket, going 27 miles over the speed limit (52 mph in a 25 mph).
 
I have a court date this Thursday, 05/05, and have pleaded not guilty. Do you know the number of points I probably will get because of this violation, and do you think it's feasible that I would be able to work it down to 0 points? I have never gotten pulled over, nor have I ever received a ticket in the 4.5 years that I have been driving.
 
If it is possible to work it down to 0 points, would my insurance premium still increase? Also, any suggestions as to what I should say to the prosecuter?
 
Thank you for your help ... looking forward to someone replying

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