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Re: No insurance license suspension [nj2pa2nc] by tidester HOST
Jan 28, 2008 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: nj2pa2nc (Jan 28, 2008 11:39 am)

a letter stating they made a mistake
 
That has to be a first - a bureaucracy admitting error? I’m glad you got that straightened out!
 
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Insurance Surcharges by niceg6
Feb 27, 2008 (4:05 pm)
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Hello again people, i recieved a careless driving ticket in july for 2 points. i went to court and got the no point ticket option plus the 450 in total fines and the 2 points taken away. my question is, can the insurance company then still surcharge me even though i got the 2 points taken off of the record and without anyother points on my record?
 
Let me know
 
Ed
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Re: Insurance Surcharges [niceg6] by andsnyder
Feb 27, 2008 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: niceg6 (Feb 27, 2008 4:05 pm)

I don't think they can. It's my understanding that that is the point of going to court, pleading to a lesser offense, and paying those outrageous costs - to avoid the inflated insurance costs.
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Re: Insurance Surcharges [andsnyder] by fezo
Mar 03, 2008 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: andsnyder (Feb 27, 2008 11:13 am)

I'm with you!
 
The whole point of ducking the points is to keep your insurance rates from going through the roof. If they were going to go up anyway why would you bother with two points? One year of ticket free driving can erase those. It's the insurance costs that take time to go away.
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Re: Points reduction on 2nd (39:4-144 stop signal voilation) offence [nsingh] by bronsta
Mar 13, 2008 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: nsingh (Jan 02, 2008 11:30 am)

Is this "buy-down" / "point reduction" system documented anywhere?
I'm curious to know which offenses may be reduced.
The specific offense I'm interested in is NJ 39:4-92 (Failure to Yield) - it's a 2 point offense.
 
Also, does anyone know if insurance points are automatically assessed for an "at fault" accident in NJ?
How many?
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NJ Traffic Ticket - Reduced Points System by bronsta
Mar 13, 2008 (9:30 am)
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Is anyone familiar with the NJ "buy-down" / "point reduction" system related to traffic tickets?
As I understand it, you can request from the prosecutor that he/she reduce certain traffic violations to lesser offenses (but pay for this point reduction). It's basically used to avoid points on your license for insurance purposes.
 
Is there a specific set of offenses related to this system?
The specific offense I'm interested in is NJ 39:4-92 (Failure to Yield) - it's a 2 point offense.
 
Also, does anyone know if insurance points are automatically assessed for an "at fault" accident in NJ?
How many?
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Re: NJ Traffic Ticket - Reduced Points System [bronsta] by nsingh
Mar 13, 2008 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: bronsta (Mar 13, 2008 9:30 am)

Yes, It totally depends upon the prosecutor. I went to court last week in Carteret for 39:4-144 (failure to stop or yield) 2 point ticket.After reading the blogs I was sure of being asked to pay $400 surcharge to get rid of two points.
But to my surprise, the prosecutor was in good mood and converted my ticket to obstruction of traffic 39:4-67 (no point ticket) with a fine of $50+ court fee 59.So I got away with no points and $89. It totally depends on the prosecutor.
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Re: Points reduction on 2nd (39:4-144 stop signal voilation) offence [bronsta] by andsnyder
Mar 13, 2008 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: bronsta (Mar 13, 2008 9:19 am)

I'm not sure about your insurance question.
 
However, with respect to the point buy down, I am pretty sure you can only do that 3 times in 5 years. Also, if you exceed that you will be assessed a penalty by the DMV. I was told something to that effect by a prosecutor and I'm almost certain that those were the limits and conditions. Lastly, I believe this would apply to all moving violations (or almost all). I think you should be able to buy down your points for a failure to yield. Hopefully, you'll find a source that verify this information before you go to court so you know where you stand. Good luck.
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Bogus 19:9-1.3c violation-3 hour drive to court by steve54b
Apr 03, 2008 (3:46 pm)
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Hi,
Last week a NJ State Trooper gave me a ticket on the turnpike northbound because I drove through some cones in a construction zone (well before the actual construction site, but where all traffic was still being corralled into the far left lane), in order to get into the off ramp for a service plaza near Mt. Laurel. I'll spare you all the details of why this ticket was bogus and get to my question(s).
 
I live in upstate NY. Without traffic, it is a 2.5 - 3 hour drive to the municipal court where I am supposed to appear in Mt. Laurel. I'm an independent contractor, so this means an entire day of work lost, plus travel costs (including about 50 bucks worth of gas), if I go down there.
 
My last ticket was probably 3-4 years ago. I paid the extra fee to have the points waived. I'm guessing that for this ticket, it's probably best to spend the time and money to go down there and at least get a plea bargain (if possible) and avoid getting any points. What I've read is that the judge probably won't care about my story - as long as the officer has the facts correct, excuses won't count. But I'm also concerned about how the construction zone thing will increase the fine and points.
 
Any advice or additional info that might be helpful would be appreciated!
 
Thanks, Steve
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Re: Bogus 19:9-1.3c violation-3 hour drive to court [steve54b] by andsnyder
Apr 03, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: steve54b (Apr 03, 2008 3:46 pm)

It's my understanding that any violations in a construction zone result in double fines (not how it affects the points). I would go to court and plead the ticket down. However, you'll have to weigh the increased insurance rates against the cost of your time, tolls, and fines.
 
I don't think you mentioned how many points your ticket is, but be prepared to pay a hefty surcharge if you are able to plead it down to zero points.
 
As far as the judge, I don't he or she will be interested in your story. I'm sure they'll listen, but I don't think it'll have much of an impact. Not swearing to that, but my experience with traffic court is that they just want to get us in and out of there (although it feels otherwise).
 
Good luck.

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