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Re: I AM IN BIG PROBLEM...PLEASE HELP [his01] by qbrozen
Apr 11, 2005 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: his01 (Apr 11, 2005 11:53 am)

You may very well be better off having the tickets separate like this. If you went in to court staring down the barrel of 6 points, you'd probably walk out with 4. BUT, since these are separate, you may be able to go to court for the careless and walk out with a no-point violation. Then go back for the 4-pointer (or is that a 5??) and walk out with 2. However, I'm not sure you'll be able to get that 4-pointer knocked down (since its 20 mph over). Again, all you can do is go try.
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Re: I AM IN BIG PROBLEM...PLEASE HELP [qbrozen] by his01
Apr 11, 2005 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Apr 11, 2005 12:12 pm)

Thanks gbrozen,
                          I am having these two tickets in different courts with different dates..
 
Here is what I have prepared my case..will this work?
 
Please help
 
I am driving since Dec 2000 in US and did not get any driving offence in 4 and half years in spite of driving history with 20000+ miles average per year.
 
Recently I got a driving ticket on 3/26 as "CARELESS DRIVING" ticket because police man told me that I was driving very close in lane and switched the line without indicator..
 
I did not drive for 4 days continuously when I got my first ticket.. And when I re-started my driving. I became so careful in my driving (following all the posted traffic signs and speed limits) because I didn't like that I got a ticket on my record even I consider myself a responsible driver..
 
Then again in the gap of just two weeks I got another ticket on 4/9 evening when I was driving back to home from an Indian store.
 
On 04/09 on Plainsboro road, I was driving at 40 in the speed zone of 40 and suddenly I noticed that one police car started following me. This car was on my left side and moving taking U turn toward my car. I got scared as well as more conscious and started driving slower than before to do that I pressed the break. After "" miles 25 mile zone started and I slowed down to match 25 speed limit.
 
I noticed that police car is just behind me for more than "" miles. I started praying god that I should be ok because of my last traffic ticket incident. In fact I started shivering.
 
When I was pulled over by cop's car, I stopped my car and police officer very politely started with these few question...
 
Do you know your head one head light is out..? I said.. Yes sir this is happened just today.
 
He asked for my driving license/insurance and registration. Which I presented immediately.
 
I was so scared in answering all the questions to police officer.
 
He said that you were driving at 45 in 25 miles zone..Did you realize that?
 
I answered NO SIR.. As soon as I saw 25 mile zone sign, I slowed down my car to 25mph.
 
Police officer told me that there are 6 posted signs on this road which say 25mph....
 
I kept quite at this point leaving everything in god's hand. I was pretty sure that I did not make speeding offence.
 
He then asked me about my driving history. I explained about my last ticket which I got two weeks before..
 
Police office told me that he is going to check my license history and he will be back soon..
 
I quietly sat in my car and waited for officer to come back..
 
Officer came back in about 6-7 minutes and told me that he is giving me ticket for driving 45 miles in 25mph zone..
 
I requested the officer to reconsider that case
 
I was denied by officer that ticket can not be UNDO..
 
I am confident that I can not drive 45 in 25 mph zones especially.. Right after getting the ticker two weeks back. Therefore I am confidently pleading NO GUILTY.
 
PLEASE HELP HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS TICKET??
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Re: Help me too! [Car_man] by newbie05
Apr 11, 2005 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Apr 11, 2005 2:10 am)

Thanks a lot Car_man host. I appreciate it. I think i'm going to plead not guilty and then goto court and plead guilty. Hopefully they'll minimize the points. Thanks again for your help
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his01 and newbie05 by qbrozen
Apr 12, 2005 (5:43 am)
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Ok, I think this applies to both of you.
 
Based on my 2 trips to NJ traffic court, you will not get a chance to speak, regardless of your plea. More importantly, pleading guilty will not even get you a trip in front of the prosecutor. You must plead not guilty and go see the prosecutor. He may ask you a question or 2, but, most likely, he's just going to inform you of the deal he is offering and if you accept or not. That's it.
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Re: I AM IN BIG PROBLEM...PLEASE HELP [his01] by black_tulip
Apr 12, 2005 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: his01 (Apr 11, 2005 1:00 pm)

I would recommend that you get a lawyer, since you seem to be intimidated by the presence of authority.
 
Once I had got a 4 pointer (52 in a 35) and my lawyer, who did not come cheap, had it knocked down to a 0 pointer (faulty equipment). If you need help with finding a lawyer, try the national motorists organization website. They also have a few good resources regarding fighting tickets. Or, just look up traffic attorneys in the yellow pages.
 
Finally, fix that defective headlamp. You do not want to draw attention by having faulty equipment.
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Re: his01 and newbie05 [qbrozen] by newbie05
Apr 13, 2005 (10:11 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Apr 12, 2005 5:43 am)

Thank you qbrozen! I really appreciate your help. My coworkers also tell me that if I plead guilty, I will not even get to talk to judge/prosecutor. So I'll plead non-guilty. Hopefully he'll give me a reasonable fine. My ticket is $204 dollars. Does anyone have any idea how much they will ask for in order to knock down to 2-points ticket? Any help is appreciated! Once again, thanks qbrozen and Host.
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Re: his01 and newbie05 [newbie05] by qbrozen
Apr 14, 2005 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: newbie05 (Apr 13, 2005 10:11 pm)

no problem. i hope it works out for you.
 
Its tough to tell what they might do or charge. You might catch the prosecutor in a good mood and get it knocked down to careless driving, which, if i remember correctly, cost a bit under $100. Then again, that was a few years ago, so who knows now?
 
If you get it knocked down to 2 points, I would think chances are you'll still pay less than $204, even after court fees, etc. BUT, maybe they'll want to hit you with a 2-pointer AND a no-pointer/high-fine ticket for good measure. You just never know.
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Does the first 2 points affect insurance premium by car_sp
Apr 14, 2005 (10:41 am)
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I got a 2 point speeding ticket and I pleaded not guilty and appeared in court and made a deal with prosecutor to reduce my 2 points. This was my first traffic offense. But if I had not appeared in court would the first two points still affected my insurance premium?
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Re: Does the first 2 points affect insurance premium [car_sp] by qbrozen
Apr 14, 2005 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: car_sp (Apr 14, 2005 10:41 am)

this was asked a few posts back. answer basically is "depends on your insurance company."

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