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Replying to: eldaino (Mar 22, 2007 10:22 am) The same is true with an engine. This engine is a 1.8 liter which is the displacement. Engine displacement is defined as the total volume of air/fuel mixture an engine can draw in during one complete engine cycle. Now currently Honda tuned the cars so that they produced 140 HP (most likely brake horse power which means no load on the suspension). tuning these engines so that they produced this output meant the tuned fuel curve and air mixture to a certain setting in the ECU (Engine Control Unit). Thus producing a range of miles per gallon. Currently the Civic at 55 MPH with no A/C and windows up will get 40 MPG. That is happens because the ECU is programed that at 2000 RPM's it will mix X amount of air with X amount of gas. Car manufacters know what exactly what their engines are capable of in terms of MPG, Horse Power, Torque, etc. they do extensive testing to make sure the car they are making meets certain specifications that are market standards. So what I am saying is that Honda knew how the EPA does its test's and compared the specifacations of the tests to Hondas tests and then set the fuel curve to maximize the MPG at the speed of 55 MPH (which is what the EPA used as highway speed for its tests). I dont know for fact people but come on Hondas were flying off lots becasue they were non-hybrids that got 40 MPG. Dealers jacked the prices up at least 3 grand and Honda saw its sales rise. Honda is a business, business are in business to make money. The Mazda 3 was a better buy for the money now becasue they get same MPG and it has more HP. JUST MY OPINION. Joshua Meineke
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Replying to: jmeineke (Mar 22, 2007 12:00 pm) The fact that the civic still gets great gasm mileage despite the new test numbers is a testament to the fine tuning of this engine. Dealers jacked the prices up at least 3 grand and Honda saw its sales rise this is hilarious. At least 3k? I certainly never paid a cent over msrp on my civic and i got mine 2 months after they came out. The Mazda 3 was a better buy for the money now becasue they get same MPG and it has more HP. JUST MY OPINION. Very true. And now for something that is NOT a matter of opinion. Even the 2.0 in the mazda 3 does not get mileage that can be called 'the same' as the civics.' Here are the numbers for ya: Mazda 3 2.0 old: 26/34 new: 23/31 honda civc: old:30/40 new:25/36 the civic experiences bigger drops, but its by about 1 or 2 miles per gallon than the mazda. And 31 mpg on the highway versus 36 is a significant difference.
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I didn't pay anywhere near 3k over even invoice and we also have a Mazda3s and it's not the better buy. Ours has the 2.3 engine which moves the car like a rocket , but the Civic is a better overall car. And we got our Mazda in 2005 and I paid the same within a few $'s as my '06 Civic. But now with 27k on the Mazda, the car feels old...numerous rattles & creaks which has taken away from the ownership experience. But we will keep it until we get nearer to 70k miles if it stays somewhat reliable. We are just to fiscally responsible to dump a car for that reason. We only get rid of our cars when they become unreliable, we can't let a car spend more time in the shop than in our garage. The Sandman 
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Replying to: sandman46 (Mar 22, 2007 2:27 pm) Sandman that is sad to hear about how the mazda3 feels old now. I know that feeling and it is not pleasing when a car that once provided not makes you frustrated. I too liked the power band on the 2.3 and felt it got great gas mileage for the fun drive it provides. |
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Replying to: eldaino (Mar 22, 2007 12:50 pm) Ok Eldanio, just because you didn't, does not mean that dealers did not do this. I bought mine in July and all the dealerships I went to in Southern California were doing this. Even the 2.0 in the mazda 3 does not get mileage that can be called 'the same' as the civics.' Well yeah that is not true. What I get from driving my car is an average of 25-27MPG. What I would get from Mazada3 is in that same range so yeah Mazda3 gets what I call the same as the Civics. As you were saying they are ranges. unfortunately Honda favors the low end of the range. |
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unfortunately Honda favors the low end of the range. how do they favor it?  as always representing the real world 28/38! 
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 Alright, you know the drill. The dealer can’t recreate the symptoms you describe when you bring your car in for warranty work . Well, when I brought my brand new Civic in 4 months ago…of course I got the run around….Well, if anyone else here keeps up with Edmunds.com news, you’ll see this article: TOKYO — Japanese automaker Honda Motor continues to be plagued by quality problems. Its latest recall involves 390,000 vehicles in Japan, including the Accord, Civic, Fit and Odyssey, to correct potentially faulty fuel pumps. The company earlier recalled more than 200,000 vehicles in overseas markets, including the U.S. and China, to correct similar problems. Honda said the defective fuel pumps could cause the engine to stop and fail to restart. That’s funny…I could’ve swore I told them I thought it was the fuel pump because it kept shooting me the “check gas cap” warning when it wouldn’t start. Needless to say I’ve been dealing with the garbage ever since….Ahh, redemption is sweet . I’m posting this in case someone else has the information I need to bring to the dealer to expedite the fix (TSP # or whatever I need). Keep us all posted!
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A question for owners of the current generation Civic sedan: How is the trunk space and what kinds of stuff can you carry? For example, is it possible to fit an adult bicycle in the trunk if you remove the front wheel? How about things like stepladders or rolled up rugs? With the rear seat folded, is there much length available? Things I'm wondering about as I debate whether to go with Accord or downsize to Civic.
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A question for owners of the current generation Civic sedan: How is the trunk space and what kinds of stuff can you carry? For example, is it possible to fit an adult bicycle in the trunk if you remove the front wheel? How about things like stepladders or rolled up rugs? With the rear seat folded, is there much length available? Things I'm wondering about as I debate whether to go with Accord or downsize to Civic. |
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