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#41 of 4597 Re: Chicago Show Announcement [jrct9454] by raychuang00 Feb 10, 2005 (9:15 pm)
Replying to: jrct9454 (Feb 10, 2005 11:26 am) I think while we can forget about the three-door hatchback, there is a good chance we may get the five-door hatchback Civic, if only Honda has recognized the success of the Mazda3 and the Ford Focus ZX5 five-door hatchback in the US market.   Besides, Honda created the two-door coupé specifically for the US market because American-market Civic buyers wanted such a model. Replies to this message: bamaflum (Mar 10, 2005 10:17 am) carguy58 (Mar 11, 2005 11:44 am)
#42 of 4597 by claudius753 Feb 10, 2005 (9:59 pm)
When first seeing the spy shots of the civic a few months ago, I was a bit worried. I really didn't like the hood slope nor the rear of the hatch. I decided to wait until I could see one without camo or one that wasn't a hatch at least.   Today I found some of the pictures of the 2006 Civic Si concept, and I must say, aside from the normal autoshow junk they add to spruce up the cars looks, I really like the way the new civic looks. If they keep the same sort of lines in the sedan, it would go to the top of my current list of cars I am considering to purchase. If not, I could settle for a coupe if they took off the wing and different color hood, and added clear head-lights.   Any ideas what the base powertrain might be? I'm hoping for a 1.8l i-VTEC making about 130-140hp, 125-135lb/ft with fairly similar gas mileage as current models, and hopefully a 5speed auto borrowed from the RSX. I think all of Honda's vehicles are iVTEC and all offer 5speed for the auto tranny, except Civic, so hopefully that will change with the new generation.
#43 of 4597 by claudius753 Feb 10, 2005 (10:50 pm)
I just found a transcript of the introduction by John Mendel for the Si, and he talks of the other areas of the Civic line up as well. Apparently the new Civic will offer iVTEC, though I'm not sure if it will be reserved to the EX models as current VTEC is, or will be in every trim level:   "Both the Sedan and Coupe will feature the latest generation of our intelligent VTEC technology that improves performance while setting a new standard for fuel efficiency and low emissions in the compact class."   the rest of the transcript is here: http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=328513
#44 of 4597 Couple could be 3 door by fdanna Feb 11, 2005 (11:47 am)
Ever seen a Scion tC? It looks like a coupe, but it's really a 3 door hatch. Any chance the Civic would have this kind of configuration? Then you get the look of a coupe with the versatility of the hatch.
#45 of 4597 by claudius753 Feb 11, 2005 (12:15 pm)
I guess thats not totally impossible, the RSX is considered a hatch, but it looks like a normal coupe, so they could do that for the civic. I highly doubt a 5 door would look like that though, based on the spy shots of the 5 door, but a 3 door maybe.   Most likely we will just get the coupe, sedan, and Si coupe without any hatchback. Hatches don't do well in America normally. Personally, I don't like the lines of the Civic 5door from the spy shots. I don't like hatcbacks in general, save for a few that I think are nice looking such as the Mazda 3 and VW Golf.
#46 of 4597 Civic Wagon by nowakj66 Feb 11, 2005 (12:35 pm)
Add me to the list of people that wish there was a Civic wagon coming to the US market.
#47 of 4597 hatch vs fast back by blueiedgod Feb 14, 2005 (4:17 am)
There is a difference between hatchback and a fast back.   tC, Mazda6, old Supra, Camaro were all Fastbacks. Mazda3, Protege5, Civic Si are Hatchbacks.   SUV's can be considered hatchbacks, but rather large ones.   Hatchback in its essence is a 2 box body, with somewhat sqared off cargo area. Fastback would have a sloping rear. Although Fastback have slightly more utility, they are no better than sedans at carrying large loads with the "lid closed" due to the sloping of the rear. Hatchbacks, with the squared off rear, can carry large loads with the hatch closed.
#48 of 4597 Civic Si by Sylvia STAFF Feb 14, 2005 (5:07 pm)
Honda Civic Si Back With 200 Horsepower   One of the biggest news stories from last week's Chicago auto show was the return of a Civic Si two-door to the Honda lineup, if only in concept form. Honda told press audiences last week that the sporty two-door shown in Chicago was a concept, but that 90 percent of its looks were accurate in terms of the coming Civic Si coupe due in the fall. The eighth-generation Civic will be a 2006 model, and will certainly sport a model like this one, probably with the concept's 200-hp, four-cylinder engine in hand. The front-wheel-drive Si will be the fastest Civic yet, said John Mendel, senior vice president of American Honda Motor Co. -- and Honda will introduce it officially in November at the annual Specialty Equipment Manufacturer's Association (SEMA) show in Las Vegas. The Civic Si concept also features a six-speed manual transmission, 18-inch wheels and Brembo caliper brakes. The new Civic range will include a hybrid version and be loaded with safety equipment, making it the "safest car in its class," Mendel added.
#49 of 4597 When? by claudius753 Feb 14, 2005 (9:38 pm)
So, if the Si will officially debut at the SEMA show in November, that means it won't be available until November at the earliest?   When would the non-Si models be available? I heard that it will be introdused as a 2006 model in the fall of 2005. What are the estimates on when this will be? I was planning on purchasing a new car in June/July but the next-gen Civic makes me want to wait. So am I being optimistic when I hope that by 'fall' they mean September? I don't mind waiting 2 months, but I don't want to wait until mid November. I hope Honda is forthcoming about powertrain specs and photos of the exterior and interior well in advance of the car's release. Replies to this message: blueiedgod (Feb 15, 2005 5:24 am)
#50 of 4597 When or how much? by blueiedgod Feb 15, 2005 (5:24 am)
Replying to: claudius753 (Feb 14, 2005 9:38 pm) It is not a matter of when, which will most likely be March 2006, but how much? Honda priced the last Civic out of its price range with very optimistic $19,7xx MSRP. And some people paid that. Majority of us did not. Will you be willing to pay $21,000 - $23,000 for a Civic? The Brembo's and 18 inch wheels will most likly not make it into the production vehicle, but may be available as HFP option, for another $5000.   I know that for $2000 more ($25,000 - $26,000) I can get an entry level Luxury vehicle with the same 200 hp, and more torque from 2.4 liter: Acura TSX.

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