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#2905 of 4597 Re: So, does the 06 Civic have DRL or not?! [claudius753] by mamamia2

Nov 26, 2005 (7:21 pm)

Replying to: claudius753 (Nov 26, 2005 6:23 pm)
"What happens if you simply leave the headlights on and shut off the car?" -- Well, the next morning (or an hour later) -- you have a dead battery....
 
Planning to lease the Civic in January, I especially went this morning to my Honda dealership to check it, and the lights stayed on. On my '05 Accord I leave the lights switch on all the time and the headlights would go off about 15 seconds after I lock the car.
 
See, DRL is great. I am all for it. Especially when driving in a rain storm or snow storm, and/or at dusk.
 
BUT then I ALSO expect the modern car of the 21st century to releave me from the hassle of remembering to switch on my headlights when it becomes dark outside, and certainly the hassle of remembering to shut them OFF before locking the car at the end of the day.... THIS IS BASIC, imho.
 
Yes, my 1993 Camry LE (as did my 1996 and 1999 Camrys) had DRL which was dimmer during the day, and AT THE SAME TIME was automatically shutting of after the keys were taken out of the ignition.
 
AND THIS WAS BACK IN 1993!!! As stated before, for the past 12 years I have not touched the headlights switch, ever....
 
I would expect Honda TODAY to finally be able to perform a simple and such a convenient technical feature that Toyota was able to perform 12 years ago.
 
Wouldn't you agree?

#2906 of 4597 Re: So, does the 06 Civic have DRL or not?! [mamamia2] by jnuzzi

Nov 26, 2005 (7:36 pm)

Replying to: mamamia2 (Nov 26, 2005 7:21 pm)
OK, so your Camry and your Accord had it. Wonderful, they are in the same class, which is higher than the Civic. If you look at the Civic and the Corolla you will see that they both do not have auto headlights. These are economy class vehicles. Are you simply that lazy that you cannot turn on your headlights at night? How could you forget? Or is your time so valuable that you cannot be bothered turning on your headlights?

#2907 of 4597 Re: So, does the 06 Civic have DRL or not?! [jnuzzi] by mamamia2

Nov 26, 2005 (8:50 pm)

Replying to: jnuzzi (Nov 26, 2005 7:36 pm)
Actually you're wrong, jnuzzi.
 
A. The Camry had it all, the Accord DOES NOT. The Camry had (and probably still has) the true DRL + Auto Shut Off. My '05 Accord (not sure about the '06) has only the Auto Shut Off.
 
B. The Corolla (at least 2 models that I have been familiar with) DOES have the same DRL + Auto Shut Off as the Camry.
 
C. "These are economy class vehicles." -- DRL and Auto Shut Off are not luxury, but safety features (certainly DRL). And I don't believe it's involving sophisticated rocket science to install them in EVERY car.
 
D. "Are you simply that lazy" --- Well, you could also ask why would I demand Power Windows and Locks, would you? How about Remote Entry? Or Power Antenna?...
 
It's not about laziness. It's about LOGIC. For instance, you drive your car all day, with your DRL on, and so are your DASHBOARD LIGHTS. Now, what would make you remember to turn on your headlights when dusk turns into night??
 
.....And how many times you seen cars parked with their headlights left on, waiting for their owners to come back and find them dead? In the middle of a snow storm, late night, in an empty parking lot?
 
Pleasant, isn't it?....

#2909 of 4597 Re: So, does the 06 Civic have DRL or not?! [mamamia2] by eric29

Nov 26, 2005 (8:57 pm)

Replying to: mamamia2 (Nov 26, 2005 8:50 pm)
Can't you just to to a custom shop and ask them to add this if you really want it? I doubt it is expensive. In fact, Radio Shack used to have a plug in for the fuse box that would beep when the lights were left on.

#2910 of 4597 Are you pulling our leg? by play

Nov 26, 2005 (8:58 pm)

BUT then I ALSO expect the modern car of the 21st century to releave me from the hassle of remembering to switch on my headlights when it becomes dark outside, and certainly the hassle of remembering to shut them OFF before locking the car at the end of the day.... THIS IS BASIC, imho.
 
I've been reading all this and I can't figure out if your kidding or not.....

#2911 of 4597 Re: So, does the 06 Civic have DRL or not?! [mamamia2] by backy

Nov 26, 2005 (9:35 pm)

Replying to: mamamia2 (Nov 26, 2005 8:50 pm)
I can see your point. I mean, even my five-year-old cheapo Hyundai has auto on/off headlights. The electronics to do that can't be that expensive, especially if it's just built into the on/off switch instead of triggered by ambient lighting.

#2912 of 4597 Re: So, does the 06 Civic have DRL or not?! [mamamia2] by claudius753

Nov 26, 2005 (9:39 pm)

Replying to: mamamia2 (Nov 26, 2005 8:50 pm)
I normally remember to turn on my lights when dusk turns to night because I can't see the road ahead and its dark. DRLs do not turn on the dashboard lights in every vehicle I have seen that has them.
 
Power windows and locks are not so much about laziness as it is being able to lock and operate windows other than the driver's side. Leaning over to try to roll up standard windows on the passenger side, say if it starts to rain, is not a safe condition.
 
Auto shut off is a good feature to have, I agree, but I don't see it as a requirement. If not having auto headlights is such a huge turn off for you, why not get the Corolla which you claim does have them?

#2913 of 4597 Re: So, does the 06 Civic have DRL or not?! [mamamia2] by jnuzzi

Nov 26, 2005 (10:08 pm)

Replying to: mamamia2 (Nov 26, 2005 8:50 pm)
A. OK, you mentioned that you had this in your Camry AND Accord.
 
B. If you are sure that the Corolla has out shut off then this is closer to what you want.
 
C. It's not rocket science. It's money. Again, we are talking about an economy class vehicle. You could add all sorts of standard safety feature like ABS, Vehicle Stability Control, etc. to ANY economy class vehicle. The only problem is that the cost of the vehicle would wind up being out of the economy class.
 
D. Why would you DEMAND power windows, door locks, remote entry, and power antenna? Power windows and door locks are NOT standard on all Corolla models and many other vehicles. Remote entry is NOT standard on the Corolla and MANY other vehicles. Power antenna? When is the last time you had a car with a power antenna?
 
You ask what would make me remember to turn my headlights on? How about the DARKNESS? Or maybe my limited visibility? How's that for LOGIC?
 
As for leaving your lights on in the parking lot, that is what the ever so annoying beeping sound is for when you remove the key from the ignition with your headlights on.

#2914 of 4597 Re: So, does the 06 Civic have DRL or not?! [jnuzzi] by mamamia2

Nov 26, 2005 (11:09 pm)

Replying to: jnuzzi (Nov 26, 2005 10:08 pm)
....Of course you don't expect me to chose the boring, ugly Corolla over the amazing new Civic, just because somebody at Honda was stupid enough about a basic feature called Headlights Auto-Shut-Off....
 
...And of course, comparing the cost of adding Auto-Shut-Off to "ABS, Vehicle Stability Control, etc." is just plain silly. Please read above about this feature available on the "five-year old cheapo Hyundai"............
 
"How about the DARKNESS? Or maybe my limited visibility? How's that for LOGIC?" --- That may be true for driving on a dark rural road, but certainly not on any typical street in the city or a suburb in America.
 
"annoying beeping sound"? --- Well, this morning, while at my dealership, I checked it on the Civic... No, it's not annoying, it's actually VERY FAINT, and hardly noticeable....
 
So yes, I WILL spend the extra $250 or so, and have a professional install the Auto-Shut-Off on the Civic.
 
...And I will keep being very disappointed. And will insist on calling whoever made that decision at Honda -- STUPID.

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