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Honda Civic, Sedan
#2735 of 4597 Re: Mazda3 vs. Civic [micweb]
Nov 01, 2005 (3:29 pm)
to comment on your personal reasons why you would stick with a civic, the only accurate statement here is that Honda has a more vast network, but it isn't like you can't find a mazda dealer within a radius of 15 miles. And that is really where it ends. The other comments about warranty, cash, and so forth is simply not true for everyone.
I have the crv, a 1999 civic ex and a mazda 5. And although I don't have a mazda 3, your reasons for backing the civic are based on perception of superior service and build quality, which is why I am responding.
Ironically, the car that has given me the most headache is the honda civic, and i take that thing to dealer for regular service. I had the misfortune of a "defective" OEM computer that had to be replace out of pocket because the warranty ran out (90,000) miles. in addition, when it was brand new, it would simply not start one cold day, and the technicians could not duplicate the problem. My crv was recalled due to a potential fire hazzard, and I was compensated with a rental and got my crv back. No big deal.
My mazda 5 was also recently recalled for potential fire hazzard, but I found the service to be superior. The dealer called me, picked my car, and dropped off an upgraded MPV. In addition, the reset my warranty and gave me $500.00 in cash! I will receive my Mazda 5 back in a few days detailed in and out.
Based on my experience, I find hondas to be overrated. I have owned 3 civics, and I do not believe they are as reliable as people say. I also don't believe that the build quality is superior. I experience the same rattle you describe in your civic, and the headliner in my crv is coming off at the edges. sloppy.
Don't get me wrong. I believe that overall hondas are good cars, but they are not great cars, and they not superior to my mazdas. I also prevously owned a miata (140,000 mi) and a 323 (250,000 mi.) both were sold as running cars to other people. man those cars are bullet proof.
Mazdas 3, 5, miata, MPV, and RX8s are all assembled in Japan BTW. It's a fact that Japanese and Korean manufacturers still have better micro quality standards. Except for the TSX, NSX, and S2000, all hondas are assembled in US and Canada.
#2736 of 4597 2006 Civic LX AT Oil Life Feature
Nov 01, 2005 (5:16 pm)
I just purchased a 2006 Civic LX Auto and really like it. I noticed that the LCD display shows the Engine Oil Life (Example: 100%, 90%, etc.). Does anyone know how to reset it if I decide to change the oil much earlier than the system tells me to? My Pontiac Grand Am had an "Oil Change" light which you could easily reset. I didn't notice anything about resetting the Civic Engine Oil Life feature in the manual. Also, can someone please tell me what fuel efficiency they're getting? The Civic is my wife's car and she only drives it 50 miles a week so it will be a while before I see what kind of mileage we're getting.
#2737 of 4597 Re: 2006 Civic LX AT Oil Life Feature [bmccall]
Nov 02, 2005 (3:22 am)
I read only once in the owners manual in how to reset the oil interval, but now forgot how to do it, so just read up in the owners manual. Not that difficult I believe
I am getting only 25 mpg in city driving only on my first 200 miles on the OD in my 06 Coupe Automatic EX with NAV. I did inflate the tires to 33 lbs after noticing from the dealership that it was at 25 lbs each tire. Here in Clearwater Florida, we have a lot of very long red lights to waste our time, and fuel, so this may reflect the lower than EPA reading of 30 mpg city. Not to mention that the car has not been broken in yet.
#2738 of 4597 Re: 2006 Civic LX AT Oil Life Feature [earth]
Nov 02, 2005 (5:03 am)
After 3 fill-ups and 812 total miles on my LX AT Sedan I am getting just under 30 MPG. I would have to classify my driving as 90 - 95% city driving. This includes traffic and traffic lights. So, overall, I am happy with my MPG.
Nov 02, 2005 (6:49 pm)
Oil Life Monitor is a neat thing. How long would oil change intervals in a new Civic be, based on the monitor? It varies, of course, but maybe we can get an idea, if a few Civic owners post their observations
Nov 03, 2005 (9:46 am)
How many folks hate the pesky little brake handle jabbing in their leg?
Who the heck was in charge of that ergonomic train wreck?
#2741 of 4597 Re: Brake handle [tawneycat]
Nov 03, 2005 (9:54 am)
No leg jabbing here.
#2742 of 4597 Re: Brake handle [jnuzzi]
Nov 03, 2005 (11:22 am)
But there are many complaints about being leg jabbed by the parking brake lever by other people, both here on this forum and at other places.
It may be a factor of how far back the seat is for some drivers, how much the driver splays his or her legs, how big the driver is. I know on the two Mk IV (2000-2005 generation) VW Golfs I owned, my right leg kept hitting the center stack, which annoyed me, but no such problem on: Civic Coupe, Focus ZX3, Dodge Neon, Scion xA (much narrower car, but still no problem) etc.
I think adjusting the location of the brake lever on the new Civic will be a lot easier for Honda than reworking a center stack to make it narrower is for VW, so I bet Honda will redesign this part of the car in a year or two, even if only a small percentage of owners complain.
FWIW, when I test drove a Civic at the Honda show, I didn't think to check on this factor (I had read about it before my test drive), but on the other hand I don't recall the brake lever being in the way either. That doesn't mean it ISN'T in the way for enough other drivers to matter, just sort of explains why Honda didn't catch it to begin with when they were redesigning the car.
#2743 of 4597 Oil Life and Other Items
Nov 03, 2005 (12:56 pm)
The dealer told me that I should return the car for the first oil change at 4000 miles and that oil installed at the factory had a magnetic quality to it that attracts any small metal that may be floating the engine. So far I am averaging 33 MPG in mixed driving. The best highway mileage so far has been 44 MPG. I love the car (an Atomic Blue LX automatic) and I just passed 2600 miles. On the downside, the metal is very thin and the car suffered some acorn damage on the hood. I have encountered no issues with leg room in the front or back seats and the brake lever doesn't bother me a bit. I have noticed that the transmission is slow to shift and at times seems to be searching for the proper gear.
#2744 of 4597 Re: Oil Life and Other Items [gabagooo1]
Nov 03, 2005 (2:59 pm)
magnetic quality.... what is that except a way to sell you an unnecessary oil change? If the oil was magnetic, you would have even more stuff floating in it...
I suppose there si a magnet somewhere to collect the metal (if there is any...).
Dealers tell a lot when the day is long.... you should change oil when the honda manual says, or when that maintenance minder comes on. Not when the guy who makes money on oil changes tells you.
As I mentiones a couple of time.... 3000 miles oil changes we had in communism. those cars were designed in the 60s. that time is over.... and one reason to buy a Honda is its more modern design and less maintenance cost. No honda ever broke down beacause of mantenance according to Honda (10000 miles). Never.