- #2690 of 4597
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problem with manual?
by mrunknown
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Oct 26, 2005 (5:55 pm)
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Hi, I noticed that when I'm coasting, clutch completely depressed and I switch to first gear with the clutch still depressed the car makes a different and slightly louder whirring sound. When I switch out of first gear it changes. The clutch is pressed completely the whole time.
Is this normal or does it indicate a problem?
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- #2691 of 4597
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Re: Civic Dash [bfyerxa]
by bfyerxa
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Oct 26, 2005 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: bfyerxa (Oct 25, 2005 6:28 pm)
I finally took a quick test drive tonight in a LX manual (Canadian). The whole dash thing turned out to be a non-issue. The digital speedo thing did not bug me either. I was fairly impressed. Not the sportiest thing but extremely quiet and smooth for a 1.8l small car. I wrung it out in 3rd down an on ramp and hit around 130 kph in 3rd at redline. Very linear power, smooth and quiet. I then "slowed" to 120kph and went up to 4th and it still had lots of oomph in that range, hence I don't see high speed passing as the issue others (including journalists) have made it out to be. Seat was very comfortable and the car fit me well. I've been cross shopping the Civic, Mazda3, and Sonata GL (all manuals) and it looks like I'll go into the Civic. The combination of reasonable driving characteristics, safety features (ABS and airbags), build quality, and cost of ownership (lowest insurance, best mileage) simply make the most sense for me as a general commuter car.
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- #2692 of 4597
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Re: Civic Dash [bfyerxa]
by mcap56
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Oct 26, 2005 (9:33 pm)
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Replying to: bfyerxa (Oct 26, 2005 7:49 pm)
I took my first test drive today also. EX auto. Overall the car was nice. The dash did not bother me at all like I thought it would. Car was solid, handled well and seemed to drive nicely. There were a few issues I noted. Visibility is not as good as my O4 civic. The accelerator and particularly the brakes were very touchy. It takes some getting used to and in general, I prefer more give. The head rests seemed to force your head forward. I am going to try again with the seat more reclined. The steering wheel could stand to be larger. And, it does seem like you are more separated from the road than in previous civics. Overall, I would say it's a very good car but the touchy brakes and head rest are troublesome to me. The Mazda 3 seems to ride more smoothly. At the very least, the brakes have some give. Any one agree.
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- #2693 of 4597
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Re: problem with manual? [mrunknown]
by accordmq
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Oct 26, 2005 (11:36 pm)
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Replying to: mrunknown (Oct 26, 2005 5:55 pm)
The first gear is not supposed to be used when the car is still moving, even coasting with clutch depressed; that's what I learnt about 20 years ago. Doing so would wear out or damage the synchro/gears.
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- #2694 of 4597
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What happen to the break in period ?
by sr45
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Oct 27, 2005 (2:32 am)
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Looks as if some are putting the metal to the pedal without the normal required break in period even on a demo...I would never want to buy a demo if that is how people treat the car.
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- #2695 of 4597
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2006 Auto mpg
by tawneycat
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Oct 27, 2005 (4:02 am)
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This 5 speed auto is capable of very impressive gas mileage. First two tanks around 40 and my last tank 231 miles for 5.5 gallons. I have been using 89 since I read temple vtec article about knocking. I drove carefully all level expressway commute (25 miles one way) at about 62 mph to get 42 mpg. A few city trips in there. I fully expect to be able to milk out 45 mpg once broken in and a good synthetic oil in place.
Not bad Honda.
I wonder what a 6 speed manual with real Overdrive could have gotten. I would have paid same as auto for that.
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- #2696 of 4597
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That's very good MPG....
by bottgers
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Oct 27, 2005 (4:24 am)
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.....for an auto. I too wonder wonder what a 6 speed manual would achieve. No doubt it would be even better. The other advantage to having a manual is they seem to last longer than autos, and if they do require maintenance, they're usually musch less expensive to repair than autos. Of course having an auto in heavy stop and go traffic has it's advantages.....
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- #2697 of 4597
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Re: What happen to the break in period ? [sr45]
by bfyerxa
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Oct 27, 2005 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: sr45 (Oct 27, 2005 2:32 am)
With today's engines the odd run through the RPM range is not detrimental. The sales guys laughed - he said I was the first one to properly test drive the thing. The new 1.8l loves to rev, is very smooth, and between 4500-6500rpm there is lots of "geddie-up" in 3rd and 4th. I used to race motorcycles and break in was always a debated topic (especially when engines are rebuilt every few weeks). Yamaha techs said to not baby it and break in like you would normally ride. The only common advice was not to "lug" during break in too much, i.e., its better to rev more (though not at redline all the time) under lighter loads then to lug around at lower rpm. And of course vary engine speed (not too hard when racing). Obviously with an automatic you don't have much control over engine speeds.
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- #2698 of 4597
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Detroit News Panel Review of New Civic
by micweb
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Oct 27, 2005 (8:25 am)
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www.detnews.com
http://info.detnews.com/autosconsumer/autoreviews/index.cfm?id=21034
The panel was a cross section of 8 Detroit area drivers. Most really like the car. A lot LIKED the digital, two level display, so the jury is out on that issue in my book. There was one strong complaint about the parking brake lever getting in the way, so I bet Honda will fiddle with it next year (no need to get ANY complaints on something that inconsequential, right?). There was concern that the interior was cramped, but most of the panel seemed to be driving trucks and suvs.
On the interior size issue, the Honda seems, to me, comparable to the Cobalt and old VW Jetta, but smaller than the Focus, new Jetta, and Corolla. I guess on that issue it will come down to personal choice - there doesn't seem to be any consensus among manufacturers, at least.
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- #2699 of 4597
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Re: 2006 Auto mpg [tawneycat]
by 307web
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Oct 27, 2005 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: tawneycat (Oct 27, 2005 4:02 am)
Why are you using 89? If it knocks on 87, take it to the dealer and have the car repaired.
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