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#2680 of 4597 Re: honda/ hyundai + resale+perception [mldj98] by backy Oct 25, 2005 (11:17 am)
Replying to: mldj98 (Oct 25, 2005 10:29 am) Here is exactly what you said:   The "five year ago remark".....I call you on it...take any Hyundai model....doesn't matter....compare it to the same type Honda model....do the 5 year cost of ownership test...see who is the clear winner....I know who it is....and I think you do to....again, pick any model...that's how confident I am in my facts.... how about yours   I did exactly what you challenged me to do. I can't help it if you don't like the results. As for the math, I was very clear in the adjustments I made to make up for the lack of 5-year cost estimates for the '06 Accord, and for the rebates that Edmunds.com didn't credit for the Sonata.   It is amazing how far Hyundai has come in just 20 years, especially their progress in the past five years.
#2681 of 4597 Re: If you paid $19.5 for civic EX you should know [herrkaleu] by w9cw Oct 25, 2005 (11:37 am)
Replying to: herrkaleu (Oct 25, 2005 8:51 am) herrkaleu wrote: "whoever compares Hyundai/Kia to the Jap brands.... did you eve have a close look at the body work? No gap is even, nothing is straight... they all look like they were in an accident and got a six-pack-job repair. I don't know about the new Sonata, but the other Korean cars have bad body work. And honestly, Elantra & Co look like they got rear ended...."   Apparently, you haven't done a side-by-side comparison of 2005-2006 versions of these cars. First of all, I'm not beholden to any of the marques, i.e. Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Nissan, Subaru, or Toyota.   I seriously looked at the 2005 Civic prior to the new generation's launch, and compared the exterior fit and finish to other brands, including the Hyundai Elantra and Kia Spectra. I also did the same on the 2005-2006 Accord, 2005-2006 Toyota Camry, and 2006 Hyundai Sonata. From scrutinizing each, the exterior body panel alignment, seams, sheetmetal crease lines, etc., the Korean marques were every bit as good as either the Honda or Toyota, and in some examples (or more specifically, samples viewed) better.   This does not imply one is better than the other, simply visual inspection of the exterior body fit. Early Korean cars were not of good quality - I will certainly grant you that -, but in many respects, neither were the Honda and Toyotas of the '60's and early '70s. I know because I had the unfortunate luck of owning them.
#2682 of 4597 The true measure... by bottgers Oct 25, 2005 (12:08 pm)
...of how well any given vehicle is built is determined by doing long term testing. Any vehicle can be a pleasure to drive and have many positive attributes when new, but are those qualities just as impressive when that vehicle hits 100K miles? Since there aren't many of these types of comparisons done by the professionals, it's up to the consumer to do this type of research. I have the adavantage of having a brother-in-law who has worked as a car salesman for years. He has told me and continues to tell me it's very common to get Hondas and Toyotas on trade with 100K and even 200K miles that run as good, drive as nice, are as quiet, and remain as rattle free as a new car. He also tells me that it's extemely rare to get a Korean vehicle on trade with that many miles that isn't ready for the junk yard. They simply don't hold up as well because they aren't built as well. Now some of you may be willing to give the Koreans a free ride by assuming they have closed the build quality gap, but they are going to have to prove they have to me before I'm willing to jump on the Korean bandwagon. As of yet they haven't done so.
#2683 of 4597 Topic ... by pat HOST Oct 25, 2005 (1:16 pm)
and politeness ....   We are here to talk about the Civic. We can do all the comparisons we want on the Sedans Comparisons board, but let's let this discussion stay focused specifically on the new Civic and not keep getting sidetracked with these comparisons here. Anyone who wants to do so is welcome to fire up a comparo by clicking on that link and using the Add Discussion button.   Some of these differences of opinions are turning personal, and of course there is no need for that - so let's not go there, okay? It's easy enough to agree to disagree.   Also, I'm sure those of you who used the term meant no harm, but please keep in mind that "Jap" is a derogatory ethnic slur - let's just spell it out to Japanese to convey our point - please.   Thanks! Replies to this message: micweb (Oct 25, 2005 4:03 pm)
#2684 of 4597 Re: Topic ... [pat] by micweb Oct 25, 2005 (4:03 pm)
Replying to: pat (Oct 25, 2005 1:16 pm) Yeah, I am interested in a lot of car things, but come to the Civic forum to find out how owners like them.
#2685 of 4597 Civic Dash by bfyerxa Oct 25, 2005 (6:28 pm)
I am in the market to replace my 02 Accord SE (manual) coming off lease. I am looking to "downsize" hence the Civic, Mazda3, and Corolla are my choices in this area (won't look at others in this arena, not going there). Corolla is out - too dowdy for me. Went to test drive the Civic tonight but dealer had no manuals to test drive, so I only got to sit in one. Although the digital speedo thing does not impress me, I know I can probably live with it. However, when I sat in the car I found that deep dash seemed to rise fairly high where it meets the windshield and gives the impression of being hard to see over. I am 5' 10", and I cranked the seat up somewhat, but still looked awkward to me. Obviously I need to drive it to really see this out properly, but it threw me off. Also, the lack of arm rest/cup holders in the rear (will not go up to an EX) is a glaring omission given that I have kids.   I want to like this car as currently it is the best bang for the $ in terms of safety features (ABS and airbags all around - again the kids), but this dash seems too much for me. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it an issue that takes getting used to when driving? Replies to this message: bfyerxa (Oct 26, 2005 7:49 pm) mcap56 (Oct 26, 2005 9:33 pm) andysandiego (Oct 28, 2005 4:48 am) and 5 more...
#2686 of 4597 Front bumper and tail lights by geovar Oct 26, 2005 (8:00 am)
I really like the new Civic (sedan) overall, but I can't get myself to like two aspects of the body exterior:   a) The shape of the front bumper seems odd to me - the rake seems to be a bit too much, particularly since it follows the contour of the body. I guess the designers wanted to keep the design in line with that of the windshield, but I can't help thinking that a small break in the contour near the bumper may not have been too bad.   b) The tail lights irk me no end. The way the lights taper inwards does not look elegant at all in my opinion (reminds me for some reason of a wide knife - like a cleaver )   I know styling is extremely subjective, but wanted to know if there are others who feel the same way I do? Replies to this message: sr45 (Oct 26, 2005 10:22 am)
#2687 of 4597 Re: Front bumper and tail lights [geovar] by sr45 Oct 26, 2005 (10:22 am)
Replying to: geovar (Oct 26, 2005 8:00 am) That's why I bought the coupe instead, but some others dislike the coupe styling over the sedan...Go figure

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