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Replying to: mldj98 (Oct 25, 2005 5:15 am) |
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Replying to: mldj98 (Oct 25, 2005 5:15 am) Oh BTW, Hyundai, Kia, Suzuki, and the other companies can stop comparing their insignificant recyclemobiles to the new Civic. As ridiculous as it was that they compared their cars to the previous gen Civic, it would be absolutely hidious to compare to the new one. The new Civic is simply in a different league than any of their vehicles. I have lots to say about the resale, reliability, ownership costs etc., but this isn't the place for it. If you want to continue to bash Hyundais here instead of talking about Civics, be my guest. curtc, I faced the same decision you did, Elantra GT vs. others, but since the Civic didn't come in a 5-door (and the GT was fully loaded with leather etc. for $13k), it was a very easy decision in favor of the GT for me. chidro and bamacar, I appreciate your thoughtful comments, but let's get back to the Civic and let the Hyundai-bashers carry on if they want to. |
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I own a camry, have never owned a honda or hyundai, but here is my take. Hondas make dependable cars with great resale value. Hyundai has improved dramatically and should not be discounted. If you put a blindfold on and were a passenger in each car, the average consumer would be hard pressed to notice the difference. The problem is that most people have a perception that Hondas are better than Hyundais ,and based on history they are right. The gap has narrowed considerably but the perception with the general public has not and in resale value perception is reality. After 2 -6 years the money you save on the hyundai when new will be given back at resale. Unless you keep cars for 8-10 yrs and 150-200k miles, it is an issue to be considered. When you trade in a hyundai, you will not be happy with what you get. You can pay more now, or get more later, the choice is yours. The hyundais will become great values when resale values increase. BTW, my previous camry a 99 had 180k on it when an engine rod blew. I still got $1500 from a car recycler for it. If this was a Sonata, probably lucky to get $200.
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Replying to: backy (Oct 25, 2005 4:53 am) Edmunds chose to compare 4 cyl camcords v/s a 6 cyl Sonata, just for the fact that their pricing was similar. By that logic, BMWs would be the world's worst cars, and never win any comparos. I am waiting for the 10Best issue for CD, let's see if the improved Sonata can finally dethrone the Accord off that list. IMO, Hyundai definitely has stepped up a few notches, and I am sure Hon/Toy will be watching them more than any other manufacturer. Even the Azera is getting rave reviews, and this competition just makes things better for us consumers. I guess I am off topic, so will back off now.
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| Finally saw a new Civic parked on the street. My god it looks huge! I don't know if it's just the styling or if the actual dimensions have changed. It looks practically Accord-sized. Is it a mid-sized car now? | |
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Replying to: rutger3 (Oct 25, 2005 6:03 am) Everything you have said is not only correct....but there is evidence to back it up. If you check my past posts, I like you have said that Hyundais have improved, and will contniue to...if not, then they will fall either further behind. My point is simple, if anyone thinks that Honda and Toyota is going to sit around and wait for Hyundai and others to catch up then they are sadly mistaken. Those two companies did not sit around and wait for others to do things....they lead....they don't follow. From the early Civics to the Mini-Vans....If Mr. Backy wants to think that we are bashing Hyundai then that is his right....but all I have stated as well as you is nothing but pure facts. Look at the 06 Civic.....another marvel.....and the nay-sayers are waiting for the 06 Civic to fall on its face! What generation of Civic are we in now? And yet....they are a market leader again....doesn't matter if it is a Coupe, Sedan, Auto, 5/6 Speed....Bottom line is this.....Honda is the most reliable, safe, and one of the highest resale car on the market...period! And with designs like the new Civic, the soon to be released Honda Fit, and the list goes on....this will never end... One last note.....some people in this forum seem to think that Hyundai was just introduced to this country a couple of years ago......check the records....see when they first started to be sold here in this country....then check the sales records, check any car media forum and see how many good write ups they have received since being sold here....not many, and the ones that have been, was in the past couple of years.....so let's not act like they were just introduced here in this country....Like I said rutger3.....you were right on with your post!!!!
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Replying to: 03accordman (Oct 25, 2005 7:53 am) At least take time to read someone's posts before attacking them, OK? |
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Replying to: mldj98 (Oct 25, 2005 8:25 am) And everything you have stated is "nothing but pure facts"? That last comment was a great example of pure fiction. The good reviews, and there have been many of them, on Hyundais started at least five years ago. "Facts" aren't facts just because you say they are. No one is disputing the '06 Civic is at or near the top of its class (well, maybe the Mazda3 fans are...). So let's talk about this fine car! For example, I am looking forward to seeing the IIHS and NHTSA crash test results. It will be interesting to see how Honda's safety engineering and all the safety features on the new Civic have paid off.
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Replying to: user1235 (Oct 24, 2005 2:21 pm) I own a Mazda 3 5-door and think of getting a new Civic as a second car. Clearly, the civic is more economical (cheaper, better mileage..) but no match for the Mazda. Heated seats, Xenon headlights, a real hatchback trunk, more room, 4 wheel disc braks.... the brain goes for the civic, but the heart for the Mazda. Both cars are great, though. In their class. But my Mazda is more comparable to an Accord (Technology, size) but cheaper and has more equippment available. and believe me, once you drove with Xenon headlights you never want to go back to the candle-lights all the other cars offer. Taste is personal though, but when I lok at the Mazda 5-door and see the spacy-lloking civic... Anyway, the civic will probably be the second car because it still is great and economical. Somehow I think when you stick to the 3 Japanese brands honda, Toyota and Mazda you can't be that wrong. All three have pros and cons... but ingeneral their owners are happy. Depends on what you want... whoever compares Hyundai/Kia to the Jap brands.... did you eve have a close look at the body work? No gap is even, nothing is straight... they all look like they were in an accident and got a six-pack-job repair. I don't know about the new Sonata, but the other Korean cars have bad body work. And honestly, Elantra & Co look like they got rear ended.... Well, if the choice was between Hyundai/Kia nad American brands, I'd go for Korea. But when the Japanese cars are available too..... 2000$ price difference don't do it for me. That I easily get back when I sell the Honda.And how often do you need to service a car? the Honda every 10000 miles. The Korean ones every 5000 miles. how often does the 400$ timing belt have to be replaced? every 36000 miles with the hyundai, but only after 110000 miles with the 2005 Honda (Toyota has a chain, I don't know about the 2006 Civic, does that have a chain too?). So, there you spend all the money you thought you saved by byuing a cheap car. and if the price is the only thing you like about the car, then you won't be happy with that for 5 years....
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