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that for the same price (invoice) you can get Mazda 3 S grand touring which has: 2.3L 160 hp engine 17" alloy wheels 0-60 mph in 7.4 seconds (car and driver magazine) Black Leather seats and door trim Heated front seats Bose audio system with 7 speakers 222W 6 cd in dash changer Xenon headlights automatic climate control Tire pressure monitoring system Rain sensing wipers Automatic headlights Security system Moonroof Trip computer Side and curtain airbags 4 year warranty Made in Japan But im' sure you're civic EX is a better buy given that it has better gas mileage.... Or maybe it's better just because it's a Honda (despite being first year tryout model).... Or maybe because it looks better (if you're over 90 years old that is) zoom zoom zoom
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Replying to: user1235 (Oct 23, 2005 2:44 pm) 19.5K is probably too much to pay for a Civic that will be heavily discounted next year, but the Mazda3 just has a bunch of options tacked on to an unrefined car. The Civic's syling is much less cluttered than a Mazda3. |
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Replying to: 307web (Oct 23, 2005 3:01 pm)   And funny you say Mazda 3 is unrefined, as it is already in its third year of production, is the top recommended compact car by Consumer Reports, and won comparison reviews in many automotive magazines and websites. Consumer reports also rates it with highest owner satisfaction and reliability. And I guess the "bunch of options" means nothing to you even though people pay a lot for things like heated seats (unless you like freezing your butt), leather (stainless durability), HID Xenon (see better at night), Bose audio (higher quality low distortion sound), cd changer, etc......
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Replying to: backy (Oct 23, 2005 7:09 am) |
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I have read a lot about "the clutch seemed funny...the feel is different than other manuals I have driven...it took a bit to get used to...". Can anyone describe in more detail how they are different compare to the pass models? For example, is the clutch too sensitive (or more forgiving) when it is released too fast? Will the engine jerks if the clutch is released slowly without putting a bit more gas? (e.g. can slowly roll forward smoothly like a automatic tranmission without putting more gas)? Need more coordination between putting a bit more gas when release the clutch, etc.? I heard some drivers complaining about rubbery feel & pushing the MT stick to 3rd gear. Any details about throttle-by-wire?
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Replying to: user1235 (Oct 23, 2005 3:22 pm) BTW, the Mazda3 is not CR's top recommended compact car any more. And CR hasn't tested the ''06 Civic yet so we don't know what they think of it compared to the Mazda3. |
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Replying to: user1235 (Oct 23, 2005 2:44 pm) Using a 2005 for comparison was very shady. |
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Replying to: 307web (Oct 23, 2005 3:01 pm) Care to back up those statements? The Mazda3 is as quick or quicker than the Honda Civic with either the 2.0L in the "i" model or 2.3L in the "s" model. Honda Civic EX 0-60 per Vtec.net = 8.55 seconds Mazda3 i 0-60 = 8.6 seconds (Consumer Reports testing NOT using the methods Vtec.net used on the Civic EX) would probably be faster if tested by professional test driver Mazda3 s 0-60 per MT = 7.8 seconds Fuel economy Civic manual - 30/38 Mazda3 i manual - 28/35 Mazda3 s manual - 26/32 The verdict? The Mazda 3 is the faster, sporiter car at the expense of fuel economy. The Civic is the more economical but doesn't have quite the acceleration of the 3 s. 20 extra hp does make quite a difference. I have driven a new Civic and Mazda3 several times trying to make a decision between the two. I don't believe the engine of the Honda to be more refined than the Mazda. A little more engine noise is audible at high rpm than in the Honda, but some drivers prefer that. I like them both very much. I just don't think your statement is completely accurate and is more personal bias than actual fact. |
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Replying to: user1235 (Oct 23, 2005 3:22 pm) |
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Replying to: user1235 (Oct 23, 2005 2:44 pm) I test drove both the 05 Mazda 3 S sedan and the 06 Honda Civic EX sedan. I liked them both, but I bought the Civic. The main reason wasn't the engine, wheels, leather seats or Xenon headlights. It was comfort. I'm 6' 1" and 215lbs. My head rubbed the ceiling in the Mazda 3 with the moonroof, even with the seat all the way down, and the drivers leg room was very tight. The length of the leg room was OK, but the width of the area where your feet sit for the clutch, brake and gas pedals was cramped. My right leg also rubbed on the center console. The Civic is much more comfortable. I know some folks don't like the position of the emergency brake handle, but it's not a problem for me. I didn't like the Mazda's rear seat leg room either. My 14 year old daughter's knees were into the back of the front seats. She sits very comfortably in the 06 Civic. I remember telling my wife how much I enjoyed driving the Mazda 3 despite the lack of leg and head room and tried to rationalize that maybe I was overreacting to the negative aspects of my first test drive and so I went back and drove one again, but nothing changed and after I test drove the 06 Civic, that was it. I don't like sitting in a sardine can. Zoom Zoom Zoom, not.
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