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For those who have purchased the '06 Civic, how do you find the throttle-by-wire system to be working? I was considering purchasing one of the new Civics, but in a test drive last night the car seemed to want to hold on to revs even after taking the foot off the gas. Otherwise I really like the car, but I am concerned about this interfering with the usability of the car and wanted to see how people who actually drive the car daily feel about it. Any input is appreciated! Thanks! 
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Replying to: ciprian (Oct 23, 2005 12:02 am) |
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Replying to: bottgers (Oct 23, 2005 3:55 am) Hey, what a coincidence! I just saw a joint press release from Toyota, Mazda, Ford, GM, Hyundai/Kia, and several other car companies announcing that they were abandoning the compact car market effective immediately because it is impossible to compete with the new Civic. I heard that there was a lot of arguing amongst these companies before the decision was made, e.g. Toyota noting that their Corolla gets superior fuel economy to the all-new Civic, Mazda and Ford saying their compact cars have better ride and handling than the Civic, and Hyundai/Kia noting that their subcompact entries have more interior room than the new Civic. But in the end they bowed to the inevitable, realizing that no one would buy their cars now that the Civic is available. Or maybe I just dreamed all that...
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Replying to: backy (Oct 23, 2005 7:09 am) I just Googled it. You're absolutely correct. |
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Nice spin. I think you know what I mean, but I'll explain myself anyway. Hyundai's, Kia's and Suzuki's method of competing is by selling less expensive cars with longer warranties, yet their marketing approach is to constantly bombard the public with ads insinuating their products are a better value than the Civic. They don't compete by building cars that are on par with the Civic in terms of build quality, fit and finish, reliability, or refinement. Nor does GM, Ford, Chrysler or most of the other companies. Mazda and Subaru are close, and I believe Toyota is the only one at the same level (or maybe even a little better) as Honda. There, I explained myself even though I think you knew darn well what I meant. You were just itchin' to rib somebody, weren't you?
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Replying to: bottgers (Oct 23, 2005 8:36 am) Hyundai and Kia's strategy has changed from their "sell only based on price" strategy of the past, but perhaps you and others haven't recognized that yet. As far as build quality, fit and finish, reliability, and refinement, I don't think it's too fair to compare an all-new Honda design with older designs from the Korean makers and say the Civic is superior. It should be superior, especially for the price premium Honda charges. The current Elantra and Spectra were better than the '01-'05 Civic in many respects. I have been very impressed by the build quality, fit and finish, and refinement of recent designs like the Spectra, Rio, and Sonata. Short-term reliability is on a par with Honda and long-term reliability is nearing Honda's levels, with improvements in each generation. Hyundai is ahead of Kia in reliability for now, but both are improving steadily. I suggest we wait to see what the all-new Elantra compares to the Civic before we conclude that the Civic is far superior to what the Koreans can offer. |
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Replying to: zwanzig (Oct 23, 2005 5:47 am) Seventh generation Accords (2003 through 2006) are drive-by-wire. My 2004 V6 Accord is probably the smoothest performing vehicle I've driven. That covers a lot of vehicles. My drives of several 2006 Civics around Honda's test tracks proves that they are also extremely responsive. |
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I never specifically said Toyota couldn't compete with the Civic, hence the reason I said I can't wait to see the next gen Corolla. I am also not as sold on Korea's offerings as you appear to be. Honda has built rock solid cars for more than 20 years and has earned their rep, while the Koreans were still turing out absolute junk as little as 5-10 years ago. While we both believe the Koreans are closing the build quality gap (some are convinced they will completely close the gap), I still think the Koreans have a long way to go, and it's quite possible they may never be able to completely close it.
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Replying to: bottgers (Oct 23, 2005 12:37 pm) |
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