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#1564 of 4597 Re: LX/EX model comparo [kbhockey]
Sep 15, 2005 (4:05 pm)
I looked at the new Civic sedan last night at our local Honda dealer. They were all on a well lighted back lot - two EXs (one with NAV), and one LX. The slope of the windshield is more apparent in person than in photos. I guess I'm a bit too conservative, but I don't like the dash design. Other than with the S2000, I'm really surprised that Honda chose a digital speedo. In most human engineering circles, digital speedometers are thought to be counterintuitive. At a glance, an analog speedo relates a "close enough" approximate speed, simply by the position of the pointer on the clock. Whereas a digital readout requires brain processing to equate to a speed. At least, this was always the thought on the superiority of analog readouts vs. their digital counterparts by those who claim to have researched this.
All three examples were manufactured in Japan. I don't know . . . my first Civic was a 1990 with the low belt line and low dash, but I'm not sold on this design. It may grow on me, as designs always have a tendency to do over time. It's a bit too "avant garde" for me, as if the Honda interior designer spent his/her or their apprenticeship at a French automobile manufacturer in the '70s. Honda used to be about relatively simple but elegant designs, especially with the Civic, but I think they went a bit astray on this one. It's my feeling that this design is squarely aimed at the younger demographic, not their long term Civic customer. And, I suppose this is in many ways good for Honda in the long term.
Now, I wonder if I can make a good deal on an existing 2005 LX still on the lot. They still had two in stock last night!
#1565 of 4597 Re: WHERE THE HOOD [justgreat47]
Sep 15, 2005 (4:07 pm)
Out of curiosity, have you sat in a new Civic yet? I just did and I don't find that the sloped windshield takes anything away from headroom or legroom. The sunroof takes away some headroom as it does on anything so equipped. I think there is plenty of legroom available, and a wide area for your feet and knees. The Mazda 3 is a tighter fit, the console intrudes into your knee space, in the Civic there is much more space. I didn't feel cramped at all.
#1566 of 4597 Re: I have decided to go with a Scion TC? [307web]
Sep 15, 2005 (4:09 pm)
I read this article about the 06 civic si and it states the 0-60 time as being 6.7 seconds by honda this is the link to the page. (if this is the actuall time thats great news)
"Not a Hot Hatch Anymore
Unlike its predecessor, which was a slow and homely-looking hatchback with a meager redline and the agility of an elderly woman, this Si is a quick (Honda says it'll accelerate to 60 mph in 6.7 seconds), fun-to-fling-around coupe, with sharp lines and the most sharply raked windshield in Honda's history. Yes, sharper than even the NSX's."
Sep 15, 2005 (4:11 pm)
Go to Car and Driver 0 to 60 7.5 Seconds 1/4 is 15.7
I bet that the EX does a 9.4 0 to 60
I am still leaning toward a scion, it looks better.
#1568 of 4597 Performance of non-Si models? Si Sedan?
Sep 15, 2005 (4:38 pm)
Sorry if this has already been covered, but I didn't have time to read all 80 pages of posts. Has anyone seen any performance stats on the 140hp non-Si models? I'm anxious to see how these perform compared to the 160hp Mazda3.
Also, I've heard rumors over the last six months or so regarding an Si Sedan in addition to the Coupe. It makes sense with so many "hot" 4-doors like the WRX, Cobalt SS, SRT-4, etc. Anyone else heard these rumors or have any info?
I'm thinking about test driving one this weekend, although I've been told by both dealers I've emailed that no manual transmission models will be available for a month or so. They say automatics are being produced first since they're the high volume sellers. I may still check out an automatic, though.
I've been very close to buying a Mazda3, but just had to hold out for the Civic. While I don't think the Civic Sedan is as attractive as the Mazda3 (Civic nose is ugly), the interior and Honda name make up for it. I'll probably end up buying one.
#1569 of 4597 Re: LX/EX model comparo [w9cw]
Sep 15, 2005 (4:48 pm)
I think the style will grow on you after you get used to seeing them on the road. As far as the sedan goes, I think it looks good from the side and back, similar to a smaller version of the Acura TSX. The front end will take me a little getting used to.
#1570 of 4597 Re: I have decided to go with a Scion TC? [crazycro]
Sep 15, 2005 (4:49 pm)
Honda says it'll accelerate to 60 mph in 6.7 seconds
Honda is very conservative.
If you haven't checked out TOV then you should.
Dynos have been done on the 2006 Honda Civic Si. The Si with 3500 miles on it made 209 hp (the engine was broken in)
TOV said it had the potential to do 5.9 with the LSD and all.
The car was supposed to outperform the Rsx-S
#1571 of 4597 Re: I have decided to go with a Scion TC? [creamyam]
Sep 15, 2005 (4:59 pm)
We will see I guess? I think that the scion could run heads up with it.
#1572 of 4597 Production of the Si
Sep 15, 2005 (5:34 pm)
Ive heard lots of good things about the Si. One bad thing is the production. I heard only 14,000 are being produced, and dealers will get 1 per month!?!?! That means a couple of things; I won't be able to get the exact car i want, or get a reasonable price. I was hoping i'd get a nice blue Si with 18's no navi and im good, looks like ill probally have to live without the 18's.
If anyone has gotten news on production for the Si, post. I am disappointed with the news ive heard. All reviews i read say the Si will be such a hit will sell like mad. So it doesn't make sense to me.
#1573 of 4597 Comparison
Sep 15, 2005 (5:37 pm)
I am going to buy a car within the next week or two and have set a strict budget for myself of around 15-16K but would like to be in the 14s if at all possible. Seeing as how dealers are not budging on the prices of the 06 civics yet, I am debating if I should save the extra 2K and go for an 05 or just get a whole different car. Here are my options so far:
1. 06 Civic LX Coupe 16,300 msrp.
2. 05 Civic LX Coupe 16,200 msrp (can get it for 14,300)
3. 05 Mitsu Lancer OZrally 17,000msrp (can get it for 14,000)
4. 05 Scion TC 16,500 msrp
I really dont like the Mazda 3 or the Corolla so I guess it may be between these 4. Seeing as how I would like to be in the 14 range if at all possible, it looks like it would be between the 05 LX and the 05 Lancer. The Lancer gives me way more bang for my buck but I really dont know how it stacks up against the other 3. Anyone have an opinion??????????????????????????
CreamYam: The reason I was leaning more towards the Lancer is that it gives me adequate mpg at 28/37 and has about 5 more HP than the 05 civic while putting out about 130 lbs of torque at 4250 rpm while the civic puts out 110 lbs of torque at 4500 rpm. By the way, no autos, only 5 speeds. If the 2K gives me alot more car for my money then i would be definitely willing to put it down.