Honda Civic Sedan 2006

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#1386 of 4597 Civic too high! by jeezlaweez

Sep 12, 2005 (7:28 pm)

I think Honda has overpriced the Civic. I'm sure that some people will pay the high prices at first just to be the first to have one. But remember, it is still a Civic with ONLY 140 HP. We had (and just sold) a 2000 Civic EX. It was a decent car but miserably underpowered -127HP but felt like 100, and was a complete drag to drive. I hate to say this because I am the biggest Honda fan out there. We have a garage full of Hondas right now (2 cars- 2004 Honda Element and 1996 Prelude si , a motocross bike, lawnmower and weed-eater) The new Civic EX is only getting a 13HP gain. I haven't driven one yet, but I'll venture to say that it still won't have a lot of oomph. I realize that a typical Civic EX owner is not really looking for a lot of juice under the hood which will obviously sacrifice MPG but some of the older Hondas didn't have a lot of power but were a real treat to drive. I had a 1985 Honda Prelude which was a blast. I think it had 115 HP. A 1991 honda CRX si at 108 HP which was awesome, and I got rid of the 2000 Honda CivicEX for a 1996 Honda Prelude Si which is a dream to drive. I test drove a 2005 Civic Ex and a 2005 Honda Accord LX but was disappointed in both. They just were NO FUN to drive at all so I went with an older car that is a blast and cost half of a new one.
I was giving some serious thought to a new Civic Si which has 197HP but after seeing the price of the EX's however, I beleive that it will be priced somewhere around $22,000 or so. WAY TOO MUCH! Hondas in my opinion are the best in the world, but if they keep pricing their rigs this way, it might become economical to buy a more sporty, fun, roomy- (whatever you're looking for) competitors brand.
I certainly hope that they prove me wrong.

#1387 of 4597 Re: sedan ex [gearjammer62] by stupidfool

Sep 12, 2005 (7:36 pm)

Replying to: gearjammer62 (Sep 12, 2005 7:15 pm)
i could've swore than the lx and ex braking were the same on the comparison chart, so the lx only has 2 wheel disc brakes?

#1388 of 4597 Re: 2006 Honda Civic [yesroh] by boomchek

Sep 12, 2005 (7:38 pm)

Replying to: yesroh (Sep 12, 2005 5:09 pm)
If Honda was to put those HX engines into a sedan with ABS and all the toys then it wouldn't get the same mileage because the car would be much heavier.
 
Same reason you wouldn't get that kind of mileage if you were to put that engine into a current or 06 generation Civic because these cars are much heavier due to a lot of the safety regulations in place today. They weigh more due to the frames and structures, and due to all the safety features like airbags, abs, more sound insulation, larger overall sizes etc.
 
That's why the honda Fit will fill that void of a light weight yet fuel efficient and safe sub compact, something the Civic used to be.

#1389 of 4597 Re: sedan ex [stupidfool] by gearjammer62

Sep 12, 2005 (8:05 pm)

Replying to: stupidfool (Sep 12, 2005 7:36 pm)
i could've swore than the lx and ex braking were the same on the comparison chart, so the lx only has 2 wheel disc brakes?
 
Yep, front discs and rear drums on the DX/LX, discs all around on the EX/Si.

#1390 of 4597 MPG: Standard vs Automatic by butron

Sep 12, 2005 (8:14 pm)

Like others I am dissapointed the standard has lower mpg in highway than the automatic. Can anybody explain exactly why? I don't mean speculation about rpm in 5th, but real facts. Thanks.

#1391 of 4597 Highway MPG by JBaumgart

Sep 12, 2005 (8:33 pm)

There is no other logical explanation - it has to be that the automatic in 5th is at lower RPM's. If they were the same the manual would have at least an equal mileage rating, and it should be slightly better. Even as it is I question if owners would notice any difference in real world, combined city/highway driving. If I wanted a manual I certainly wouldn't let this sway my decision.

#1392 of 4597 looks by aquaticexplore

Sep 12, 2005 (8:39 pm)

coupe looks stylish, sedan still seems pretty sedate. How does price compare to the mazda 3?

#1393 of 4597 Re: sedan ex [gearjammer62] by drummerboy_200

Sep 12, 2005 (9:18 pm)

Replying to: gearjammer62 (Sep 12, 2005 7:15 pm)
"Not quite - the EX also adds 4 wheel disc brakes, alloy wheels, remote trunk release, variable speed wipers, console lighting and chrome exahust. That extra speaker also comes with a 350 watt stereo, vs. 160 watts in the LX. The interior fabric is a higher quality in the EX as well. And if you want NAV, (or want to add it later), the EX and Si are the only ones wired for it."
 
You forgot to mention audio controls on the stering wheel, an auxiliary jack for the stereo, 60/40 split rear bench, and other goodies. However, the 350w stereo is in the coupe, not the sedan.

#1394 of 4597 Price by claudius753

Sep 12, 2005 (10:02 pm)

I was hoping to get an '06 Civic EX Coupe with auto and Navi for a little over $20k. It seems like it will be more like $22-$23k. Granted this will be the top end Civic, but it still seems a little high to me. Hopefully by the time I'm ready to buy my local dealer will deal a bit. Last time I was there I test drove a 2004 EX auto sedan, which was nice, but they wanted MSRP even though it was May '04.
 
Maybe I should try internet sales this time, or look for another dealership. $23K is getting close to RSX territory. I can get a similarly equipped Mazda 3, sacrificing 9 hwy mpg for 20 hp and more torque for about $1000 less than the EX. I would rather have the Civic, but I won't pay $23k for a Civic. Maybe the Fit will be out by the time I am finally ready to buy.

#1395 of 4597 Re: Civic too high! [jeezlaweez] by blane

Sep 13, 2005 (4:25 am)

Replying to: jeezlaweez (Sep 12, 2005 7:28 pm)
jeezlaweez,
 
The 2006 Civics are "only 140 HP" because all brands of cars now have to calculate horsepower using the more stringent August 2004 federal regulations. If your old car had its horsepower recalculated to today's standard, the figure would be much lower too.
 
I can't help but believe that your 2000 Civic EX had some sort of problem that as you wrote, made it feel "miserably underpowered". Perhaps the brakes were dragging slightly. Perhaps there was a fuel or electrical problem that went undiagnosed.
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