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Infiniti M35 / M45 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Used 2008 Price [ghstudio] by ocim
Jan 03, 2009 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: ghstudio (Jan 02, 2009 8:19 pm)

ghstudio - How do you know if the "trade in value" that the dealer shows you is not just some fabricated number as well.
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Re: Used 2008 Price [ocim] by ghstudio
Jan 03, 2009 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: ocim (Jan 03, 2009 6:52 am)

Take a copy of edmunds and KBB printouts with you. When they say those are wrong and they use a different system, ask them for a print out from whatever system they use to check trade in values or ask to see their number on their computer screen.
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Re: Used 2008 Price [ghstudio] by ocim
Jan 03, 2009 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: ghstudio (Jan 03, 2009 7:01 am)

Thanks ghstudio - that is a very good idea. I wonder if the manufacturer rebates on the 2008 are going to be extended beyond January 5th.
 
I noticed that a dealer in Chicago (Infiniti Gold Cost) has a lot of M35X (16 of them) with only 50 miles on each. When I checked the Car Fax report it appears that the cars were titled but never actually sold since the dealer still has them. I am wondering if the dealer did not actually purchase all of these from themselves to take advantage of manufacturer rebate before it expires. That way they can competitively sell the vehicles even after Jan 5th since the dealer's actual cost now reflects the effect of the rebate. The only problem they will have is that these are now considered used vehicles and some consumers will surely use the published KBB prices to try to negotiate a better deal. What do you think?
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Re: Used 2008 Price [ghstudio] by redline122
Jan 04, 2009 (3:03 am)
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Replying to: ghstudio (Jan 03, 2009 7:01 am)

ghstudio,
That's good advice. But what makes looking at the dealer's computer screen truly validate that the number is valid? Being in the tech field, I can tell you that computer screens can be truly manipulated to appease whomever would be looking at the screen.
 
I would be so blunt to ask how their "algorithm" is more accurate than those used at KBB or Edmunds. Heck if the guy/gal can't answer that, then they are just saying that they are right "just cuz...".
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Re: Used 2008 Price [redline122] by ghstudio
Jan 04, 2009 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: redline122 (Jan 04, 2009 3:03 am)

redline122....Many dealers are directly tied into the auction prices so they can look at the most recent prices of actual wholesale sales. They don't use any algorythms. They also don't give you any credit for features/options or mileage...that's a myth perpetuated by edmunds and KBB. When was the last time you saw two cars on a used car lot...one with a sun roof, the other without and they were priced differently because of the sunroof? Sure...big options have some value....but most don't have any value when you are selling/trading in.
 
As far as manipulating screens or printed output, I doubt that anyone in the dealership is that sophisticated....they would have to adjust fonts, size, etc pretty quickly. At the honda dealer, they just brought in the printout and showed it to me.
 
Generally, if they have nothing to hide, they will show you what they are looking at...if you are pleasant and businesslike. If they give you a hard time...you may decide that you don't want to do business with that dealer. I have no trouble at all walking out of car dealer showrooms.
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Re: Used 2008 Price [ghstudio] by ocim
Jan 05, 2009 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: ghstudio (Jan 04, 2009 1:52 pm)

I got a quote for $38,900 + TTL for a new 2008 M35X (Technology). The MSRP is $49,815. It does not have the xenon lights, but I can probably live with out those if I have to.
 
Does this seem reasonable to you?
 
Also, can the xenon lamps be installed as a dealer option later?
 
THX
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Please give me your input by mltsurger
Jan 06, 2009 (7:45 pm)
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I have two offers from a dealer.M35X tech,adv tech,xenon 2008 41,990+ttl-New or M45X tech,adv tech,prem. with DVD and rear recline seats,19 in. chrome whheels-2008 12,000 miles cert.6yr/100K 44,500.Thoughts?
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Re: [ocim] by jbr613
Jan 06, 2009 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: ocim (Jan 02, 2009 4:14 pm)

Hi ocim - this was Devan Infiniti in Fairfield, CT. But they don't have much left.
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Re: Please give me your input [mltsurger] by jbr613
Jan 06, 2009 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: mltsurger (Jan 06, 2009 7:45 pm)

The M35X seems high. I just bought an one w/tech, xenon, cargo mat, splash guards for $41,450 OTD.
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Re: Please give me your input [mltsurger] by shmang
Jan 07, 2009 (7:43 pm)
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Replying to: mltsurger (Jan 06, 2009 7:45 pm)

I would definitely go with the M45. The M35 is fast, but the smoothness and rocket like acceleration of the M45 is no match. When I was shopping for the M, I test drove the M35 and M45 back and forth several times and try to save some $$ by getting the M35, but had a hard time every chance I test drove either - even there are some sweet offers from M35. So, I have to settle with the M45 (Paid $7k more and to date, I still think it worth ever dollar I paid). Just do yourself a favor and test both of them out. The choice is obvious if you are buying the M for its performance.

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