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1142 messages, Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 6:58 PM
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Replying to: madrad (Jun 05, 2008 11:56 am)  BTW: They've deleted the ability to control the radio and A/C with voice commands. Strikes me as stoooopid, but not a big deal.
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Replying to: blov8r (Jun 06, 2008 11:07 am) 
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Replying to: blov8r (Jun 10, 2008 6:27 am) I did get really good lease offers on a G35x ($40,675 MSRP) or EX35 ($43,725) for 24 months for this month - payments around $460/month (tax included) with just inceptions due at signing on either car. So, I'm kinda confused as to what to do. I'd be giving up some cool features that the M has (cooled seats, tilt mirrors, 6 disc in-dash, etc) if I downgraded and went with one of those. Perhaps I'll just ride it out and see what happens.
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Replying to: blov8r (Jun 10, 2008 6:27 am) I posted a response to a similar question on the 2009 M thread. Unfortunately, there is nothing to fix. It's not a software "problem". I was told that part of the reason for dumbing down the system was too many complaints from people that they didn't get the result they were seeking (confusing oh for home,...yadda yadda). Carping from a few about misunderstood numbers, names, etc. apparently caused Infiniti to rethink their implementation of voice activated commands. I think that it's terribly unfortunate because I have yet to find a voice recognition system that worked as well as Infiniti's. For all I know, litigation regarding some of the voice functionality may have been involved as well. As I mentioned in my post on the other thread, the original functionality of the voice system is available on cars delivered to all markets (Canada, Europe, and wherever else they are now selling) EXCEPT for the United States. Because of the unbelievable residuals I opted this time for a G37 Coupe rather than the M. Check your M manual, but if it is like the manual for the G, all the commands you were used to are still listed. At some point they note, however, that certain commands are available on Canadian cars only. I love the G and have been truly impressed by the products Infiniti has been putting out but I certainly wish that the full featured command set that I had on the M was still available. It wasn't perfect but it was better at voice recognition than any commercially available system I have experienced. Alas, sometimes complaints and litigation do nothing but dilute the richness of products/services available to us. Be forewarned, the coffee you are about to drink is hot! |
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Replying to: bw45sport (Jun 10, 2008 4:41 pm) I have to disagree about the greatness of the navigation system. One of my biggest problems with the system is that I have to enter the city before the address. I am often going to an area that is borderline...between two cities and a county and I have to guess which one...if I'm wrong, I have to reenter everything and try again. The new mercedes system allows me to enter the street and then gives me a selection of towns. That would incredibly helpful. I also hate the services implementation because when I am on a freeway, I want to see the choice of restaurants at the next exit to see if I want to get off...not just the first page. I don't know about you, but pulling off on the side of an interstate to find what type of restaurants are at the next exit isn't my idea of safety.
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Replying to: djdez (Jun 10, 2008 12:21 pm) DJDEZ: They did NOT remove the backup camera and voice recognition. How are you figuring $50K+? Are you looking at the advanced tech package, the Sport, or the X? Mine listed under $48K. I got the base M w/ the basic lower end tech package that DOES include the backup camera and voice recognition. Backup camera's great, and for an old guy with a stiff neck it makes life easier. The voice prompts are different now ... a bit more cumbersome in some respects but overall probably have more available functions. However, for me all I really care about is the ability to regulate my A/C and radio with voice commands and dial pre-programmed phone numbers so the modifications have no material advantage to me. Yes, I did consider extending my lease while continuing to shop but once I settled on a new M I pulled the trigger figuring I wouldn't do significantly better later this summer. Bart
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Replying to: ghstudio (Jun 11, 2008 5:18 am)
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Replying to: blov8r (Jun 11, 2008 6:22 am) Thus, the lease is at least $100 more per month and I can't see paying that - hell, I'm tryin to LOWER my payment! That's why I've been looking at the G35x and EX35 ... Maybe they'll raise the $2k to $3k in a few months, so I'm entertaining extending my lease for now.
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Replying to: djdez (Jun 11, 2008 6:51 pm)
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Replying to: ghstudio (Jun 11, 2008 5:18 am) I made no comment on Infiniti's navigation system. My remarks were solely about the quality of their voice recognition software. Mentioning navigation though, I noticed that the G no longer requires a city to be entered (one of your complaints). Enter the street name and a list of the cities in your current region with that street name appear. The listing of only one page of addresses, restaurants, gas stations, motels, etc., while in motion could be bothersome for some. Had they left the voice recognition system as it was this could have easily been solved by a next page previous page voice command. As for the other commands? I used the tune radio all the time. Presets were absolutely unnecessary when you could simply speak the station you wished to hear.
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