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Infiniti M45, Infiniti M35, Sedan
#428 of 1339 Finally bought the M35 sedan
May 29, 2006 (12:20 am)
After a month of research I finally bought my wife (and kids) the car she (they) wanted (thanks edmunds and forum). Our initial search started with looking at sedans that sat 5 as comfortably as possible. My wife drove an ML320 for six years (and 93K miles) and now wanted a sedan. After checking out about 6 different cars, we narrowed it down to the Lexus ES350 and the Infinity M35. The Lexus had price ($37650+ttl for premium plus and nav, but no sirius sat.) better mpg and no rear hump in back seat floor going for it. It drove ok, but on the soft side. The A pillars seemed to be very thick and in the way, visually. The kids (3) said the back seat was not wide enough shoulder wise, it lacked rear seat leg room and passenger knee room was very tight especially when you opened the glove compartment and the door would lay on your knees (I'm 5'9"). The styling was an improvement over the 2006, but it was still blase' (unless you get the SCREAMING LOOK AT ME red). I didn't care much for the high gloss wood grain, especially the wooden steering wheel which was an option, but couldn't find one without it. The sirius satellite was not offered at all because of some kind of technical difficulties according to the Lexus parts department and if I wanted XM added to the vehicle I was Negotiating for it would cost an additional $800. The DVD headrest would be $2595 installed (I was curious). Wife was ok with it, the kids were less enthused. The things going against the Infiniti M35 was the price ($44250+ ttl for the tech and journey package which included nav, premium Bose audio and choice of sirius or xm, I prefer sirius) and the poor reviews I read about mpg. After hard negotiating I discovered that leasing was the way to go and I got the best deal with the Infiniti $350/mo for 36 months, 15K miles per year and $10K for my trade in versus the Lexus$403/mo for 36 months, 15K miles per year and $8.5K for trade in (both payments include Ca tax) I feel that I got huge bang for the buck, made my wife very happy and shocked the kids (they thought I was buying the Lexus). The M35, I feel, is more comfortable for every passenger, even the middle back seat. The steering seems to be much more responsive with a nice sporty feeling. I like the lane departure warning system and the radar feature for the collision avoidance control when in cruise control. The wood grain is very classy looking and the 14 (yes 14) speaker Bose stereo rocks. I even had the salesman add the clear bra into the deal when they were offering me the extras at signing. By the way, Infinity will add the DVD headrest for $1795 if I want them. Both dealerships were very accommodating.
May 29, 2006 (8:14 pm)
Infiniti dealer in my area (Washington DC) agrees to sell a used M45 Sport (10,500 miles) with Journey Package for $44,000. Carfax report shows this was a lease. Is that a good deal?
Thanks in advance!
#431 of 1339 Re: Used M45 Sport [zen_master]
May 30, 2006 (7:30 am)
I would look at used car prices her on Edmunds, Kelley, and Carpoint to find the numbers. Looks like you're getting ~ $10K off MSRP w/ a clean Carfax report and plenty of warranty left. Sounds a bit high to me ... Bart
#432 of 1339 Re: Used M45 Sport [blov8r]
May 30, 2006 (8:35 pm)
Thanks for the info!
#433 of 1339 Re: Latest residual/money factor [panther21]
Jun 05, 2006 (1:40 pm)
I'm also in the Chicago area and am interested in a m35X. I was wondering how you like your car, since you've had it now about 6 months and which dealer you got it from. Also how the experience was.
#434 of 1339 Does this lease offer make sense?
Jun 08, 2006 (7:38 pm)
Not sure whether to post this here or on "lease questions", so leaving it on both. Please ignore one if same lease experts are monitoring both.
Journey and Tech
Deal complicated by my still having 3 remaining payments (of $567) on 2004 BMW lease and have used up my allotted miles, so I'd pay about $200/month for each of 3 remaining months of driving, if I kept that car until 9/15.
Infiniti dealer would make the remaining three payments and pay whatever else is involved in his dealership bringing the BMW back to BMW (the leasing company) -- if I do this. So, there is nothing else being taken off the MSRP.
MSRP -- $48, 520
I would put down $3,000 which includes all closing fees and first month's payment.
Acquisition fee -- $550
Residual -- 66% = $32,000
Money factor = .00042
Sales use Tax where I live = 7.75%
Monthly payment = $675 ($725 with tax)
#435 of 1339 Re: I think i got a great deal. [kayrin]
Jun 09, 2006 (12:22 pm)
Did you deal with the internet sales people or did you just find someone on the floor? Also, did you finance through IFS or your own?
#436 of 1339 Infiniti M3X, Chicago Area
Jun 11, 2006 (5:55 pm)
Has anybody bought M35X at Infiniti of Lisle near Chicago ?
Any experience, recommendations, bad/good things about the dealership would be appreciated, also if you want to share the price paid for M35X would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
#437 of 1339 Internet buying a waste of time
Jun 17, 2006 (7:12 pm)
Anyone thinking about trying an internet buying experience (via email), don't waste your time. I have spent a week emailing the six Infiniti dealers that are within an hours radius of my house. Not one of them would come down lower than 1500 over invoice, and they all padded the down payment with another 500 to 1000 dealer profit (thanks Edmunds lease calculator for helping me identify that!!). The three dealers I ended up actually making some progress with insisted I call before they would negotiate below a certain figure, almost the same figure for each one. One dealer was very honest and provided me with the MF, residuals etc.. that I already had from the lease questions forum.(thanks again Edmunds and Car Man.) Two of them outright lied to me (not that I expected total honesty)about the MF, payments, residual, and how much profit they were making. Even when I let it be known that I had the information to calculate the correct figures, not too bright on their part. Unfortunately, the two slimy dealers had the car I wanted, and the honest one did not. So, here I am with no M35 Sport today. Lesson learned - use the phone, or print the worksheets and go in to the dealer. I might go to the dealer on the last day of the month and see if they are desperate for a sale to make their numbers.