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Re: Helllllllooooooooo!!! [rioowner]
by hatchbackqueen
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Jul 15, 2008 (4:41 pm)
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Replying to: rioowner (Jul 15, 2008 6:15 am)
Yes, I do read these posts. I just got my Kia (2002 Cinco) and I, too, read with interest about the timing belt issue--something I've always replaced regularly as clockwork in other cars. I'm not mechanically-minded, but I do want to learn about issues and things to watch for.
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a big thanks
by rioowner
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Jul 16, 2008 (4:21 am)
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Thank you guys or gals for responding. I was beginning to think I was in the twilight zone. So there are people out there that read these posts. Good deal.
I haven't been thru all the posts to read what is happening to these cars, maintenance, belts, timing, and such, so I don't know too much about the cars except what I experience. The timing belt is a big deal? To change it when the car hits approx. 50k? I don't have air on my vehicle ither. I didn't use it when I had it. The air blowing in the windows of my four door are suffient. I got two keys when I bought the car and one was not the right key. I found that out when I tried to carry one and my spouse carried the other. I was locked out. I went to the dealer to find out why and they hadn't a clue. They don't make keys. They sent me three miles away and had one made, which I paid for, said they would reimburse me, but it took them 48 minutes to copy the key. They really didn't know about the Rio's. Six tries to copy the key, and finally they got it right. I went back to the dealer to get my three dollars back, and they asked for a receipt. I had none. Didn't think one was necessary. I had the key. I went off just a wee bit. I drove my gas for a mistake you made, had to wait while they tried to make a key for 48 minutes, and now you won't give me my three dollars??? I went on to say, that is poor bussiness-like professionalism. I talked to the manager, gave him my side, and the salesman that did this, told me to go there, use my gas, my time, he just set over in the corner and never opened his mouth. Not being rude, I just gave them my personal opinion of the way they handled that situation. The manager gave me a free oil change, as he stated, "that is about a thirty dollar gift", and I replied, you wouldn't have to have done that had you been professional about it in the first place. I am probably not well liked at that dearlership. The salesperson that sold me the car no longer worked there. I am not surprised, the way they do bussiness, they probably get under fire alot. I bought the base model. No air, no radio, no power at all. The next step up was 6k more than the base model. You get air, a radio, power locks, power steering, but still have crank windows. I cannot imagine 6k for air and a radio. The power steering is ok, but for 6k more for that stuff, no thanks. The steering is great. No problems unless you are in a tight place, which just stay out of tight places, no problem. There is less to go wrong with it. I put a 85 dollar radio in it. I roll the windows down, I lock the doors with my elbow, and turn the blower on my feet. Not a bad ride for 9990. I still get over 39 mpg and that itself is paying for the car. I traded in a vehicle that got 20 and 21 mpg, so go figure. Nice to see someone is listening. Good day to ya's.
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Re: Helllllllooooooooo!!! [hatchbackqueen]
by jeramieanderin
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Jul 18, 2008 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: hatchbackqueen (Jul 15, 2008 4:41 pm)
I think last time I had to go to that dealership, they basically told me that if I don't change the timing belt and it "happens" to go out, then I'll have to replace my whole engine. That was enough of a warning to get my attention!
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Re: Helllllllooooooooo!!! [jeramieanderin]
by hatchbackqueen
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Jul 18, 2008 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: jeramieanderin (Jul 18, 2008 12:04 pm)
The timing belt is hard to get at, so when you do it, ask your mechanic when to replace the water pump. A few years ago I was proactive in replacing the water pump at the same time as the timing belt because I had never replaced it in about 14 years and didn't want it to go at some other time because the labor costs are high for replacing the timing belt. I've been pretty religious about replacing them every 60,000 miles. I'd like to say I'm as careful about other maintenance, but apart from regular oil changes, I may not have registered in my brain the other things that need to be done regularly. Now I have an '02 I plan to be more diligent about regular services/tune-ups--I understand Kias are fussy about such things!
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Re: Helllllllooooooooo!!! [hatchbackqueen]
by rioowner
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Jul 19, 2008 (2:32 am)
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Replying to: hatchbackqueen (Jul 18, 2008 8:28 pm)
So, how much moolah are we talking about when changing the timing belt, if you happen to know? And that is a good idea to change the water pump. Some vehicles, like the saturn require a certain anti-freeze coolant, which I did not know about when my mother passed, I got her car and the pump started leaking when I put coolant in it. It was low, and running fine, then all of a sudden, a few days later, the pump went out. I investigated, and found that the coolant needs to be from saturn, and no other coolant would work. Imagine that. Like the Rio, the oil is a higher viscosity than normal. Usually 10w30 is used, but I think it should be 20w50 or something like that. Some may not know that and use the lesser of the two. I wonder if that would work hard on the pistons. Can they tell if you use the wrong oil in your car? So, I have about 50k more miles to drive before a timing belt is needed, so I will or should know by then. Start saving now I guess. On a Miata, it cost me over 460 bucks. I have had five of those cars. Great cars, but don't have much room for packing bags going anywhere for a week. As small as they are, the gas mileage is not that great. I got 31 on the highway and about 26 in the city. Not near as good as the Rio. And I can take more shirts and shorts.
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Re: Helllllllooooooooo!!! [rioowner]
by kennybeeak
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Dec 07, 2008 (3:36 pm)
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Replying to: rioowner (Jul 19, 2008 2:32 am)
I just had the timing belt replaced in my '03 Rio. $442.
On the dealer's recommendation, I had it changed at 50,000 miles. Apparently our rugged Alaskan winters are hard on timing belts, and they frequently go out prior to 60K.
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fueling issue
by roysha
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Dec 10, 2008 (11:34 am)
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Hello folks.
I am new to this board so if I ask a question that has been asked and answered, I apologize and ask that the appropriate post/posts be shown to me. I did a search but either I entered the incorrect search words or this situation has not been addressed.
My Granddaughter has a Rio, I believe an "03" and the last three or four fill ups she can only get a couple of quarts into the tank at a time and then it flows out around the nozzle. I am reasonably certain that it is a vent problem but not sure what to do about it. I believe it goes without saying, I would like to avoid a costly repair so if there is a simple fix of some sort, I sure would appreciate the information.
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Re: Helllllllooooooooo!!! [kennybeeak]
by Dansker
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Dec 19, 2008 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: kennybeeak (Dec 07, 2008 3:36 pm)
Oh how to I hate being a single woman when dealing with cars. I recently purchased a 2002 Kia Rio. It certainly looks like the salesman took me by the nose, moneywise and otherwise. Anyway, a friend of mine told me her auto mechanic suggested I get the timing belt replaced at or before 60,000mls. Otherwise, the engine would falter and I'd have to replace that as well. I've never heard of such a thing. The auto mechanic (apparently trustworthy) told my friend it would cost me $600.00. Currently, I only have 51,000, so have a little bit of time. I put on only 4-5,000 ml/yr. It'll be a few years before the car is paid off, (that's how much I paid) so I'm interested in doing what it necessary to keep the car going. Any suggestions you folks may have will make me very happy.
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Re: Helllllllooooooooo!!! [Dansker]
by kennybeeak
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Dec 19, 2008 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: Dansker (Dec 19, 2008 5:34 pm)
It may cost you $600. It only cost me $442. If you have any choice as to where to have it done, shop around. To other readers: Could a Hyundai dealership replace a Kia timing belt? If so, this would broaden the options.
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Re: Helllllllooooooooo!!! [Dansker]
by hatchbackqueen
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Dec 20, 2008 (12:34 am)
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Replying to: Dansker (Dec 19, 2008 5:34 pm)
I have an '02 Kia Rio Cinco I just bought in May. I may be forgetful about some car maintenance things, but I have always been religious about changing timing belts on time. A mechanic may also suggest that at some point you replace the water pump at the same time (I don't know how long they should last) because they're close together and it costs the same in labor for either job. So I did that once, too. I agree with the other writer who said it should cost around $450 or so and I don't think you need to have it done at a dealership--any competent mechanic can get the right belt and do it--I avoid getting work done by dealerships whenever I can--they always charge more! I kept my last car 16 years and although I had another belt go out on me without warning 'cause I hadn't been checking it or getting someone else to do it--it was easy to access and cheap to replace, unlike a timing belt. So your friend's mechanic is quite right. In Canada I replaced my timing belt every 100,000 km (60,000 miles). Good luck with your car!
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