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Re: mpg Rio [wave54]
by rioowner
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Feb 19, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: wave54 (Feb 18, 2008 9:38 pm)
I went to the car lot where I purchased my vehicle and got pictures of 44mpg on the windshield of many Kia Rio's, some with the name Kia in the background to show it is a Kia lot. Some are new 08's and some 07's. But, if they are going to advertise 44mpg, shouldn't all of them get this amount, without hit or miss? I don't know how to post a picture on here, but have them stored. If you would like to see one, let me know how to post it here. Thanks friend. bob
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Re: mpg Rio [rioowner]
by wave54
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Feb 19, 2008 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: rioowner (Feb 19, 2008 12:40 pm)
They shouldn't post that figure at all - on any car! It's unethical, if not downright illegal, to use the highest mileage figure anyone has ever gotten to insinuate that this is possible for any/all drivers.
I still believe that KIA headquarters would have a fit if they knew one of their dealers was doing this. Your state's Attorney General would likely put a stop to it as well. Every state has laws regarding false and deceptive advertising. It depends how far you want to take this.
All that dealer can legally post is the EPA estimates of 27/32 -- nothing more, either in writing or verbally.
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Re: mpg Rio [wave54]
by mdp37
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Feb 22, 2008 (9:21 pm)
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Replying to: wave54 (Feb 18, 2008 9:17 am)
I also bought 2007 rio5 newspaper ad had them listed 50 mpg do not pay for a year and I was also looking for a better gas car dealer told me 50mpg was excellent...after all the paper work was done a few later the had the same ad with the mileage at 46 mpg..I then e-mailed kia to explained the 2 ads they had given me blah blah....Strange enough I have both of the ads locked in the safe...I think its false advertising to lure customers maybe we should take a little farther
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Re: mpg Rio [mdp37]
by wave54
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Feb 23, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: mdp37 (Feb 22, 2008 9:21 pm)
I know in my state (CT), there is NO tolerance for false or deceptive advertising. A call to the State's Attorney General to file a complaint usually results in some action.
The KIA dealers cannot claim 44 or 50 mpg -- period!!! The only way a Rio will get 50 mpg is to run through an entire tank on the Bonneville Salt Flats at 55 mph with the windows up, all electrical items off, the tires pumped up to 40 psi and a stiff tailwind.
The best estimates on probable mileage comes from people who own that model or the EPA figures.
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Re: mpg Rio [wave54]
by rioowner
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Feb 23, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: wave54 (Feb 23, 2008 11:18 am)
I am in Ky, and again, we have people who watch these when people speak up. I am seriously considering calling the attorney general and file a complaint. It has been seven weeks since owning the new rio, and I am spending well too much for gasoline for the mileage I am actually getting. It isn't that I am unhappy with my purchase, but to think they can advertise on cars 44mpg and not even come close to that, (their response would be, I think, it is the way you drive), is telling me I am an idiot. Either for believing their advertising, or for not knowing how to drive to achieve full maximum mileage out of a gallon of gasoline. For the first month, we held traffic up going so slow, trying to get every mile we could to prove to ourselves that we made a smart purchase. Holding traffic, by that I mean we drive back roads out to main roads and the speed limit is 35 and we did about 30-35. Everyone goes at least 50 or more back there to get there quicker. At my age, I have learned to take it easy, and been involved in a life threatening motorcycle accident, I realize what harm can come in an accident, even in a car. I don't care what it is. Whether you wear a seatbelt or not, you will be hurt to some extent in an accident. So, we go slower and save gas also. We need to get there, we leave a bit earlier. It is amazing how many people floor it knowing what gas costs today. And it does use more the faster you go. But, anyway, I am considering going further on the advertising. Next week will be a good time to start on it, after further investigation as to whom should be notified. Bottom line. It is wrong if you are not getting what is advertised. Thanks to all.
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Kia Ad and A G
by rioowner
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Feb 27, 2008 (1:43 am)
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I just wanted to see if anything would happen, I sent the Ky Attorney General an email stating what was being advertised on this new Kia car lot. I explained that I did not receive the gas mileage anywhere close to what was advertised on the cars windshields on this lot. I told in the email how discusting it is to hear of this advertising and somewhat believe it, because it is being advertised in public, and to my knowledge, it should be true. I am being a bit naive there. But all in all, it is wrong to advertise that and not be able to achieve it, on any of their cars they sale. The response I got back was, if you want to file a complaint, go to here, a place that supplies the form and fill it out and send it in. Done. So, there is no concern there at all who advertises whatever they want to advertise. If that is the case, then everyone can advertise anything they wish. They are just not interested because it won't draw the attention they need.
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on a trip
by rioowner
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Mar 08, 2008 (2:41 pm)
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Ok, just got back a couple of days ago from the Smokies, which is about 285 miles away, one way. Clocked my mpg the way there. I got 36 mpg, doing between 56-61, no slower, no faster. Pissed alot of people off, but what the hey. That was the best I got going there doing so slow, it pissed me off. We drove around Cades Cove, which is an animal habitat and around the town, 25-40 mph stop and go. I got 36 miles per gallon. Go figure! We left four days later, filled up in Jelico, drove 108 miles. Filled up, got 38 mpg. Drove 110 miles to Frankfort, got 40 mpg. Got home, drove the next day, which was Friday, put 156 miles plus the trip from Frankfort, got 37 mpg. I know this is, or sounds crazy, but filling up when you use less than half a tank gets you more mpg. I went to a quarter tank, got 36. Went to 3/4 tank, got 38 and 40. I do suppose the more air in the tank, the less mileage you get. The slower you drive this Rio, the worse gas mileage you get, and that is what I got. On the way back, I was doing between 67-72. Better mileage going 6 to 9 miles an hour faster. I never figured that way, but I got the proof. I don't really think anyone can drive better than I and when you ask the dealer, that is what they tell you. It is the way you drive. Horse manure. I watched my rpm, mileage, speed the whole way. Now what do you think about that?
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Re: on a trip [rioowner]
by kennybeeak
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Mar 08, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: rioowner (Mar 08, 2008 2:41 pm)
Well, the best mileage we've ever gotten on our '03 Rio was 43 mpg on one trip doing 60-65 mph, with 41 mpg on two other trips. On another trip pushing 80 mph (don't tell the State Troopers) I got 37 mpg, which also seems to be pretty typical highway mileage at somewhat lower speeds. It's what we have on our license plates. We average 27-28 mpg in town.
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Not a lot of input here, is there?
by irismg
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Mar 14, 2008 (5:49 pm)
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When there's something like several years between posts, there's something wrong! Are these cars THAT bad? I know a co-worker who was always taking hers in for a sensor that couldn't be fixed, but surely the later-models are better?
Tell us how you feel driving such a small car - do you feel safe? And has it been reliable for you? 
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Re: Not a lot of input here, is there? [irismg]
by rioowner
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Mar 14, 2008 (9:09 pm)
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Replying to: irismg (Mar 14, 2008 5:49 pm)
We drove Mazda Miata's for the past 12 years. We had five different miata's, hers and mine. Talk about a small car! It was fun, though. The Rio is small, as well as the others made by chevy, ford, toyucka, (which I will never own one), or allow one to park on my driveway, and the Rio fits right in there with the other small cars. There are alot of small cars on the road, as there are big vehicles, which don't always observe the smaller ones. My wife loves driving the Rio as well as I, although I do not love to drive it, but it is ok to drive. I have had muscle cars, sports cars, and I just do not see anymore what the big deal is. Use to be if I had neat wheels, cool windows, loud system, glasspac muffler, I was king Shot going down the road. Nowadays, it is comfort as well as mileage, and driving the smaller cars as the Rio, I see not much difference in it than sitting in the back seat of a bigger style mustang. As far as safety, in a small car, you will get hurt. If you are in a midsize car, you are going to be hurt in an accident, and in the big cars, you will be hurt also, depending on the accident. Believe me, if you are in a serious car accident, any car will hurt you. The movement of jarring, jolting, being shoved from one side to the other, or whiplash, whatever, any size car, you will be hurt to a certain degree. You can be killed. Or just hurt. You also can be run over by a truck stepping out of your office, or house, etc. If you like the car, buy it. If you like the comfort of a big car, buy it. I for one like the smaller cars because they fit me like a glove. I have air bags all around me, but in an accident, I will still be hurt to some extent. I wake every morning and take a chance of not being able to walk. If you think like that you are in more danger of driving a Rio, then don't buy one. I like it, she likes it, it drives very good, and it gets good gas mileage.
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