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The only other car sold in
by iluvmysephia1
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Feb 18, 2008 (2:43 pm)
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America that might list an avg.mpg of 44 is the Honda Civic Hybrid, but off the top of my head I think that's pushing it by about 4 miles per gallon average. Anyone know the real answer to that? T' would be good to know.
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Re: The only other car sold in [iluvmysephia1]
by wave54
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Feb 18, 2008 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Feb 18, 2008 2:43 pm)
Honda Civic Hybrid: 40 City, 45 Hwy -- 40 mpg combined for 2008 with automatic.
Om fueleconomy.gov, owners are averaging between 40 and 51 mpg from 2003-2008 models. Pretty good!
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Re: mpg Rio [wave54]
by rioowner
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Feb 18, 2008 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: wave54 (Feb 18, 2008 2:36 pm)
I will plan on making a trip over there tomorrow just for that reason. I feel slighted in buying on advice of 44mpg hwy. They did tell me that the reason for the signs on such cars is b/c people call them and tell them they got that on the highway. I didn't believe that they would do that on a phone call/s. I may plan to take this just a bit further. Thanks for the advice. I still like the car, no problem, but it should get what they tell you and not only on the sticker. Or they should stop telling that to sell cars. Talk later. I don't know if I can post a picture on this sight or not. If I can, I will. bob
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Re: mpg Rio [rioowner]
by wave54
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Feb 18, 2008 (9:38 pm)
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Replying to: rioowner (Feb 18, 2008 6:29 pm)
It's not impossible that some owners get 44 mpg on the highway, especially if it's flat, mild weather, the windows are rolled up and the gas has no ethanol blended in.
That's probably the "best case scenario" and shouldn't be used to sell a car. The dealer overstepped their bounds using a figure so far above the EPA estimate.
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Re: mpg Rio [wave54]
by rioowner
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Feb 19, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: wave54 (Feb 18, 2008 9:38 pm)
I went to the car lot where I purchased my vehicle and got pictures of 44mpg on the windshield of many Kia Rio's, some with the name Kia in the background to show it is a Kia lot. Some are new 08's and some 07's. But, if they are going to advertise 44mpg, shouldn't all of them get this amount, without hit or miss? I don't know how to post a picture on here, but have them stored. If you would like to see one, let me know how to post it here. Thanks friend. bob
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Re: mpg Rio [rioowner]
by wave54
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Feb 19, 2008 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: rioowner (Feb 19, 2008 12:40 pm)
They shouldn't post that figure at all - on any car! It's unethical, if not downright illegal, to use the highest mileage figure anyone has ever gotten to insinuate that this is possible for any/all drivers.
I still believe that KIA headquarters would have a fit if they knew one of their dealers was doing this. Your state's Attorney General would likely put a stop to it as well. Every state has laws regarding false and deceptive advertising. It depends how far you want to take this.
All that dealer can legally post is the EPA estimates of 27/32 -- nothing more, either in writing or verbally.
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Re: mpg Rio [wave54]
by mdp37
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Feb 22, 2008 (9:21 pm)
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Replying to: wave54 (Feb 18, 2008 9:17 am)
I also bought 2007 rio5 newspaper ad had them listed 50 mpg do not pay for a year and I was also looking for a better gas car dealer told me 50mpg was excellent...after all the paper work was done a few later the had the same ad with the mileage at 46 mpg..I then e-mailed kia to explained the 2 ads they had given me blah blah....Strange enough I have both of the ads locked in the safe...I think its false advertising to lure customers maybe we should take a little farther
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Re: mpg Rio [mdp37]
by wave54
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Feb 23, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: mdp37 (Feb 22, 2008 9:21 pm)
I know in my state (CT), there is NO tolerance for false or deceptive advertising. A call to the State's Attorney General to file a complaint usually results in some action.
The KIA dealers cannot claim 44 or 50 mpg -- period!!! The only way a Rio will get 50 mpg is to run through an entire tank on the Bonneville Salt Flats at 55 mph with the windows up, all electrical items off, the tires pumped up to 40 psi and a stiff tailwind.
The best estimates on probable mileage comes from people who own that model or the EPA figures.
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Re: mpg Rio [wave54]
by rioowner
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Feb 23, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: wave54 (Feb 23, 2008 11:18 am)
I am in Ky, and again, we have people who watch these when people speak up. I am seriously considering calling the attorney general and file a complaint. It has been seven weeks since owning the new rio, and I am spending well too much for gasoline for the mileage I am actually getting. It isn't that I am unhappy with my purchase, but to think they can advertise on cars 44mpg and not even come close to that, (their response would be, I think, it is the way you drive), is telling me I am an idiot. Either for believing their advertising, or for not knowing how to drive to achieve full maximum mileage out of a gallon of gasoline. For the first month, we held traffic up going so slow, trying to get every mile we could to prove to ourselves that we made a smart purchase. Holding traffic, by that I mean we drive back roads out to main roads and the speed limit is 35 and we did about 30-35. Everyone goes at least 50 or more back there to get there quicker. At my age, I have learned to take it easy, and been involved in a life threatening motorcycle accident, I realize what harm can come in an accident, even in a car. I don't care what it is. Whether you wear a seatbelt or not, you will be hurt to some extent in an accident. So, we go slower and save gas also. We need to get there, we leave a bit earlier. It is amazing how many people floor it knowing what gas costs today. And it does use more the faster you go. But, anyway, I am considering going further on the advertising. Next week will be a good time to start on it, after further investigation as to whom should be notified. Bottom line. It is wrong if you are not getting what is advertised. Thanks to all.
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