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Re: mpg Rio [wave54]
by rioowner
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Feb 18, 2008 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: wave54 (Feb 17, 2008 11:15 pm)
Hey Wave, (see my hand), just kidding. When I bought, or before actually, the salesmen there, a few of them told me that I would get better than the sticker. Which when I checked again was 27-32. For the time it took them to sell me the car, all I heard from them was it will get at least 35 on the road around the city. Fab. I am not a nutcase, but took them as they sell the damn car. Maybe it will get better, maybe it won't. On the lot, I saw what they, the car lot had put on the windshields of quite a few Rio's. 44MPG. I thought, if I get somewhere close to that, I will be set in getting the Rio paid for saving gasoline. So, in essence, it was the dealership, or maybe just the sales people that insisted that I get at least 35 or more per gallon. I have checked it a couple of times, but my wife is driving it and she doesn't do checks like I would do, but will let you know in a week or so.
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Re: mpg Rio [rioowner]
by wave54
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Feb 18, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: rioowner (Feb 18, 2008 6:21 am)
It's dealers like this that give car salesmen their bad reputation. They were blowing some serious smoke!!
35 mpg on a highway drive is probably achievable, but I wouldn't expect it in stop-and-go city driving. Ditto for 44 mpg under any conditions. The EPA estimate is reasonable for that model.
Go to FuelEconomy.gov and click on "Your MPG" on the left side of the page to see what people in the real world are getting with any model.
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Re: mpg Rio [wave54]
by rioowner
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Feb 18, 2008 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: wave54 (Feb 18, 2008 9:17 am)
That is a good website you sent me to. Very interesting. I haven't been back to the dealer where I bought the car, but will take my camera and take pics of the windshields that display 44mpg on them. What a waste. I could have bought a gm which had the power steering. I bought this car b/c of the mileage, and b/c it was so cheap, the base model. I don't mind it not having any extras anymore, as I used to adore driving something that got talked about, and could brag about. Not anymore. I could care less if it has a dps, or temp, or gas info on the overhead strip. I don't care about wheels, looks, anything that doesn't get you there safely and doesn't cost a million everytime you start it up. I have drove miata's for the past eleven years, but now it is hard to get in them at my age. My first miata was exciting. The last was a speed and man was it fast, and fun. The gas mileage was great, at around 31 city, but could not take anything on trips, unless you had a trailor built for it. And three times the cost of the rio. If I look like a dork driving a rio, then so be it. I have had american cars all my life and now you cannot buy one made entirely in the U S. So, buy american is almost impossible anymore. Try to find a pair of sneakers made here. Or a microwave. Even G E 14 miles from here don't sell their products here. Mexico is where americans get their appliances made. Getting off subject but buying an american car is out of the picture, and who cares what anyone drives anymore. Other countries trying to break the U S by selling outrageous priced oil is what is tearing this country apart, not to mention the war, and the crooks in government. Enough of that though. I am glad I bought the rio, only my gas mileage should be better according to the dealer that sells them. Thanks for the insight.
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Re: mpg Rio [rioowner]
by wave54
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Feb 18, 2008 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: rioowner (Feb 18, 2008 9:45 am)
I don't know that it's worth it, but if they are posting figures of 44 mpg, there might be a legal case against them for false advertising.
I'm sure that KIA headquarters would be interested in hearing from you along with a picture. They'd be down there pronto, since it's not in their best interests to deceive prospective buyers.
I don't think any car is sold in the US is rated at 44 mpg, except maybe a Prius.
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The only other car sold in
by iluvmysephia1
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Feb 18, 2008 (2:43 pm)
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America that might list an avg.mpg of 44 is the Honda Civic Hybrid, but off the top of my head I think that's pushing it by about 4 miles per gallon average. Anyone know the real answer to that? T' would be good to know.
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Re: The only other car sold in [iluvmysephia1]
by wave54
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Feb 18, 2008 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Feb 18, 2008 2:43 pm)
Honda Civic Hybrid: 40 City, 45 Hwy -- 40 mpg combined for 2008 with automatic.
Om fueleconomy.gov, owners are averaging between 40 and 51 mpg from 2003-2008 models. Pretty good!
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Re: mpg Rio [wave54]
by rioowner
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Feb 18, 2008 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: wave54 (Feb 18, 2008 2:36 pm)
I will plan on making a trip over there tomorrow just for that reason. I feel slighted in buying on advice of 44mpg hwy. They did tell me that the reason for the signs on such cars is b/c people call them and tell them they got that on the highway. I didn't believe that they would do that on a phone call/s. I may plan to take this just a bit further. Thanks for the advice. I still like the car, no problem, but it should get what they tell you and not only on the sticker. Or they should stop telling that to sell cars. Talk later. I don't know if I can post a picture on this sight or not. If I can, I will. bob
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Re: mpg Rio [rioowner]
by wave54
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Feb 18, 2008 (9:38 pm)
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Replying to: rioowner (Feb 18, 2008 6:29 pm)
It's not impossible that some owners get 44 mpg on the highway, especially if it's flat, mild weather, the windows are rolled up and the gas has no ethanol blended in.
That's probably the "best case scenario" and shouldn't be used to sell a car. The dealer overstepped their bounds using a figure so far above the EPA estimate.
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Re: mpg Rio [wave54]
by rioowner
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Feb 19, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: wave54 (Feb 18, 2008 9:38 pm)
I went to the car lot where I purchased my vehicle and got pictures of 44mpg on the windshield of many Kia Rio's, some with the name Kia in the background to show it is a Kia lot. Some are new 08's and some 07's. But, if they are going to advertise 44mpg, shouldn't all of them get this amount, without hit or miss? I don't know how to post a picture on here, but have them stored. If you would like to see one, let me know how to post it here. Thanks friend. bob
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