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Jan 06, 2008 (3:29 pm)
First post here, Need to know what the following codes are. Feel like I'm getting cranked around by my KIA dealer, long story though. Codes are as follows, all were found same time as in being serviced: P0128. P0560. P0335. P0102. and P1780. Notes say they were traced back to low battery, cleared code and charged battery. Only thing is I originally took it to them for my Check Engine light which came on and my mileage immediately dropped from about 34-35 mpg down to 24-25 mpg! Blamed everything on the fuel pump! Like I said long story, although I'm not current car mechanic savvy per say, I'm not stupid having worked on many vehicles prior to 10 miles of vacuum hoses and 100 sensors all under 1 hood! Any help from you great folks would be greatly appreciated, personally I'm suspicious of the MAFS, but I'm also just giving it a calculated guess. Thanks in advance.
#545 of 613 Re: 2001 KIA RIO Codes [hoosierboy8030]
by jsteelerfan
Jan 20, 2008 (8:23 am)
mafs is a mass air flow sensor.you probably need to replace that one with the 02 sensor and the throttle body sensor. once replaced you will have to have the codes cleared from the dealership. i have an 04 with same problems and got screwed around also.they are junk cars and will never get one again.their value falls and depreciates worse than any car on the market.
#546 of 613 Re: car broken [victor1952]
by jsteelerfan
Jan 20, 2008 (8:35 am)
look up cherry auto sales for a motor.got mine there for 1,000 with 2 year unlimited mileage.got last year and it runs better than the original one.if you get one dont forget to replace the clutch and pressure plate and waterpump while the motor is out.did you break a timing belt?the cars are junk and they give you a warranty that doesnt include lots of things like a timing belt.they need to be replaced at 40,000 which they do not tell you that when purchasing.
#547 of 613 kia rios are junk and worst depriciating on market
by jsteelerfan
Jan 20, 2008 (8:40 am)
anyone have any questions on their kia rios ask me,i have been there and done it.i have an 04 rio timing belt broke at 90,000 and destroyed the motor.replaced it along with over $500 in sensors.if you see this message and are considering a kia,any model,please reconsider.
#548 of 613 Re: kia rios are junk and worst depriciating on market [jsteelerfan]
by jemtec
Jan 26, 2008 (7:31 pm)
Dude, Timing belts BREAK.
It makes no difference what model car you are driving!
Just about every timing belt based engine needs a new belt at 60K and some models go further to 90K.
The Kia is rated at 60K and is recommended that you replace it as soon as you possibly can.
It made it 90K. that was PLENTY of warning past the recommended 60K.
If it wasnt changed after that time period, that is not the cars fault!
Cars dont typically use non-interference engines (belt breaks, no damage) these days like they did at times in the 1990s and earlier.
As far as sensors, that I can understand being a problem, but not just Kia.
But to blame everything on a timing belt that is a maintenence item.. a very SERIOUS maintence item at that is a waste of time talking about.
Basically, you neglected it, so its your fault and any car can take a dump if you forget to maintain this very important component.
Jan 26, 2008 (9:11 pm)
take solace in the fact that he's a Stealers fan and...right from the start, that ought to tell ya something. I don't know why timing belts are such an issue with anybody. The manual that comes with the car says "replace your Kia's timing belt at 60,000 miles" or else serious engine problems might result.
Pretty cut and dry, when someone is dealing with something as complex and expensive as an automobile, a creation of man that has so many moving parts and components, one has to maintain that vehicle. If you don't, well, our resident Stealers fan can attest to the folly of that.
Jan 28, 2008 (5:05 pm)
Two tanks now, one month old 08 Rio, I got 30.1 mpg city. I am disapointed tremendously. That is why I bought the cheapest car that advertises 44 hwy mpg. Sticker states 27-32 or 34, so why am I not getting at least 35 mpg? I can't drive any better, slower, more efficient. 5 sp manual, basic, no air, no power. Anyone getting the 44 mpg?
#551 of 613 Re: Winter Driving experience Rio5? [max43]
by rioowner
Jan 28, 2008 (5:20 pm)
I drove on a little bit of snow. Good handling. How is your mpg?
#552 of 613 Re: mpg Rio [rioowner]
by kennybeeak
Jan 28, 2008 (6:22 pm)
EPA gas mileage figures are notoriously optimistic. We have an 03 Rio which we've been driving for 2.5 years. We average about 28 mpg around town, 37 in typical highway driving, and 42 for steady 55 mph. That's about as good as it gets short of going to a hybrid. Don't believe the advertisements.
#553 of 613 Re: Winter Driving experience Rio5? [rioowner]
by kennybeeak
Jan 28, 2008 (6:29 pm)
We find winter driving in Anchorage, Alaska is pretty good, not as good as with four wheel drive, but as good as can be expected short of that. We have non-studded winter tires, which were a noticeable improvement over the all-season radials our 03 Rio came with.