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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Feb 24, 2005 7:08 pm)
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| I wonder what kind of mileage it is suppose to get, and how much heavier it has become with the makeover. | |
| I've never seen a car on the road without air conditioning. It sounds interesting to have a car that resembles a modern Model T- just the basics- seats, doors, airbags and a transmission. | |
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Replying to: jchan2 (Apr 02, 2005 9:11 am)
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Replying to: chrisducati (Apr 17, 2005 10:39 am) |
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My '86 Pontiac has factory A/C but it doesn't work, and the cost to recharge an old R-12 system is ridiculous. So I've gone without it for the five years I've owned the car. It's just on the edge of bearable here in the NJ/PA region. I've learned to bring a water bottle with me when I drive in the summer. I can imagine it would be really awful to drive down south without A/C. -Andrew L
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Replying to: a_l_hubcaps (Apr 17, 2005 3:53 pm) You can actually recharge your system with a retrofit R134 Kit. They run about 50.00, come with a 2 Oz can of oil, and 3 cans Of R134, along with a high and low side connector, and the main Refilling connector that screws onto the can and has the valve on it. I've redone several R12 Systems over the years. First step.. Take your rig in and get the old stuff sucked out, (most places will recover and recycle it for FREE). If you do the re charging (its easy to do im telling ya), but get help from someone you know if you aren't sure where the High and Low Side Ports are, or even if you dont feel comfortable doing any of this. The Low Side typically is a Larger connector than the High Side... and the High Side is almost always mounted closest to the Radiator. The replacement connectors screw over the old valves, the Low side becomes a larger one with a Blue Cap, and the High Side Becomes a Slightly larger connector with a Red Cap. Make sure that when you recharge it, you put the Oil in first, have your AC turned on full blast, and engine running. Then (this isn't perfect science, but your car WILL blow cold air compared to none at all!) It needs to be 85% of whatever the amount the Factory originally put in the system. So, if its say, 23 OZ of R12, that comes out to, 19.55 OZ. Its VERY important you remember this. if you dont, it can damage your Compressor! I say its "not a science" because each can is 12OZ.. So, you can add one, but only a bit over 3/4 of the other. Just make sure you keep your finger on the shut off valve for the R134.  Some people say that you should "consider" replacing all your system O-rings. Honestly, with 99% of the rigs out there with R12 made in the 1980s, you will be just fine leaving it completely stock. What makes the diff is that the Oil you charge it with in the Kit will have the necessary lubricant, and sealing qualities that work great with R12 Systems. Just something to consider. If you know where your Low and High side is, Get your Numbers figured out for the best amount to add of R134, You can have your AC up and running in about 15 minutes. Just MAKE sure you get your old stuff evacuated, (will help get some of the old oil out) and the R12 is GONE. They Don't mix. 
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jemtec- Yeah, I'm aware of the R-134A retrofit, but I've heard mixed reviews. Some people say it works fine, others say it causes all kinds of problems. So I've been reluctant to give it a try. Although the car is 19 years old, it's not a piece of junk, and I don't like to make haphazard repairs. Well, I guess I dragged this discussion a bit off topic... -Andrew L
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Will it have side curtain airbags?
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Replying to: jchan2 (Apr 19, 2005 2:44 pm) "The new Rio also offers class-leading interior volume and six standard airbags, including full-length side-curtain airbags." You can find it here
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