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#389 of 398 Re: Looks like all you "No hybrids in the HOV" crybabies have tears coming [terry92270] by gagrice Oct 05, 2006 (4:28 pm)
Replying to: terry92270 (Oct 05, 2006 3:33 pm) I can tell you he did not turn it around by sticking to the ideals & promises that he was first elected for. That's politics American style.
#390 of 398 Re: Looks like all you "No hybrids in the HOV" crybabies have tears coming [larsb] by midnightcowboy Oct 06, 2006 (5:20 am)
Replying to: larsb (Oct 05, 2006 2:20 pm) Maybe they can make an "HOV Hybrid lane Only" and restrict those slow moving single occupant beasts to it!   Sounds like an attempt to counteract the loss of the tax credit.   Either that or the smog is much worse in Califonia than anyone ever imagined.   There is a time and a place for single occupant hybrid cars! There is a time and a place for HOV multiple occupant cars. And the time and place for each should be parallel universes asymtotic lines that never meet!.   Just remember that all of the HOV incentives and government tax incentives on Hybrids can mean only one thing!   Good Luck the End is Near,   MidCow   P.S.- I understand legislation is underway to alllow schizophrenics to use the HOV lanes also. Replies to this message: gagrice (Oct 06, 2006 6:33 am) midnightcowboy (Oct 06, 2006 8:10 am)
#391 of 398 Re: Looks like all you "No hybrids in the HOV" crybabies have tears coming [midnightcowboy] by gagrice Oct 06, 2006 (6:33 am)
Replying to: midnightcowboy (Oct 06, 2006 5:20 am) allow schizophrenics to use the HOV lanes also.   I think a case can be made for single parents with a hectic lifestyle or grandparents wanting to get to see their grandchildren without fighting traffic   If you are taking your dog to the vet is that considered two occupants? Or do our laws discriminate against species? hmmmm Replies to this message: midnightcowboy (Oct 06, 2006 8:10 am)
#392 of 398 Re: Looks like all you "No hybrids in the HOV" crybabies have tears coming [gagrice] by midnightcowboy Oct 06, 2006 (8:10 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Oct 06, 2006 6:33 am) Only if it is a larger breed dog. Small dogs and cats are being descriminated against!   We need to have the democrats redefine the meaning of the word "Occupant" !   Read my lips, "I did not have have a No-Occupant in my car without an HOV sticker"   LOL,   MidCow
#393 of 398 California Clean Air Stickers by kingsley1 Jan 04, 2007 (11:14 am)
Question -   In California, I know that the original 75,000 stickers were issued in 2006 and another 10,000 are being released Jan 1 2007. I bought a Prius in December and am waiting for my license plate #s, so I can send in my paperwork. Does anyone have any insight to how fast the 10,000 stickers will go or if there are plans to issue additional stickers? I feel like the clock is already ticking...
#395 of 398 Well, that's it for the CA stickers by stevedebi Feb 05, 2007 (4:59 pm)
This from the LA times:   DOT To Stop Issuing Hybrid HOV stickers   It would appear they are clogging up the HOV lanes... Replies to this message: tpe (Feb 06, 2007 5:32 am) stevedebi (Feb 06, 2007 1:13 pm)
#396 of 398 Re: Well, that's it for the CA stickers [stevedebi] by tpe Feb 06, 2007 (5:32 am)
Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 05, 2007 4:59 pm) I somewhat doubt its the number of hybrids that are causing the problem. As the article pointed out, far less than 1% of all registered vehicles in CA are hybrids and not all of these even qualify for the HOV lane. Is it possible that drivers of hybrids are more likely to strictly adhere to the posted speed limit? The flow of traffic on most interstates that I've driven is typically 10 mph over the posted limit. A vehicle travelling 10 mph below the prevailing speed of traffic is going to be very disruptive. Replies to this message: stevedebi (Feb 06, 2007 1:13 pm)
#397 of 398 Re: Well, that's it for the CA stickers [tpe] by stevedebi Feb 06, 2007 (1:13 pm)
Replying to: tpe (Feb 06, 2007 5:32 am) "A vehicle travelling 10 mph below the prevailing speed of traffic is going to be very disruptive."   From a commuting perspective, clogging is clogging; it doesn't matter if it is speed or numbers.
#398 of 398 Very interesting study........ by larsb Jun 12, 2007 (7:39 am)
This compares with what I have seen for my last three trips to California:   Not Cloggin it Up   One less reason to hate hybrids STICKERED CARS AREN'T CLOGGING BAY AREA CARPOOL LANES By Gary Richards Mercury News Article Launched: 06/12/2007 01:30:58 AM PDT   The first look at how many hybrid cars are being driven in Bay Area carpool lanes may come as a surprise. They aren't choking the lanes as once feared.   Caltrans' latest traffic count shows that only 6 percent of cars in the region's busiest diamond lanes are exempt hybrids - Toyota Priuses, or Honda Civics or Honda Insights - containing just one occupant. That also includes vehicles powered by natural gas or electricity, which have no limit. It's far fewer than some expected when the state first permitted some solo drivers the luxury of speeding up their commute by moving into a carpool lane.   Even still, officials have no plans to allow more solo drivers in hybrids to enter the region's growing number of commuter lanes.   "Hybrids initially made up around 3 to 5 percent of traffic in the diamond lanes," said Caltrans' David Seriani, who oversees carpool operations in the Bay Area. "So now that has increased a bit. But at this rate and for the most part there is no conclusive evidence that they are having significant impacts."   So there, HOV hybrid use haters. Nyah Nyah Nyah !!!

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