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#2 of 34 The FR-V/Edix is or appears by vcarreras

Aug 14, 2004 (7:57 am)

to be the Stream replacement, at least in Europe. There had been a rumor that the Stream was coming to NA (according to Motor Trend) this year as the Latitude. Because apparently the stream was an "old" design the FR-V/Edix is it's replacement. Let's HOPE Honda does bring it here early next year as an 06. The Civic will be all new in 06 so maybe this will be added to it.
 
http://www.honda-club-ems-jade.de/Honda%20News/Honda_s_New_MPV_ED- - - - - IX/honda_s_new_mpv_edix.html
 
Maybe Honda doesn't want to take anything away from the 05 Odyssey but for me a smaller vehicle like the FR-V/Edix would fit me fine. The 2.4 160/200hp engine will probably be the engine for the NA market and maybe even the diesel.
 
You are correct that is LEFT HAND DRIVE on one of the pictures!
 
From the Honda website..
 
 http://www.honda.co.jp/Edix/
 
Also from Honda will be the Acura RD-X half Honda CR-V and half Acura RSX. There were pictures of the RD-X in the August issue of Car and Driver. Think Honda/Acura will have a HIT with each one of these here in NA. The RD-X IS coming. Let's hope we also get the FR-V/Edix.
 

#3 of 34 Re: The FR-V/Edix is or appears [vcarreras] by manbil7

Aug 14, 2004 (5:52 pm)

Replying to: vcarreras (Aug 14, 2004 7:57 am)
Thank you vcarreras for all the info.
 
I think it's the perfect competitor for crossover vehicles like the Toyota MATRIX, Mitsubishi Outlander etc. Same concept and strong possibilities of getting it here. But as we all know Honda is a very cautious company when it comes to introducing new models.
 
BTW I saw the 'Cupid' movie that shows the wagon in action and looks to be fairly tall, almost as tall as a Chrysler Minivan. Seems shorter than most US market minivans though.
 
http://www.honda.co.jp/Edix/movie/640/index.html
 
They report a 5m (16.5 feet) turning radius which is a plus when parking downtown.

#4 of 34 I am in the market by vcarreras

Aug 15, 2004 (3:53 am)

for this size vehicle. It should be larger than the Matrix but smaller than the Sienna. Honda also has the Elysion and JDM Odyseey which unfortunately appears not coming to NA. Too bad especially the JDM Odyssey. What IS coming to NA is the Acura RD-X and wonder if the FR-V/Edix is based off of this or a completely new platform. Gosh I wish we knew what Honda and Toyota are thinking and if they will bring the FR-V/Edix and what I still like is the Toyota Wish. They are both economical and practical. http://www.toyotawish.com Guess time will tell. Hopefully sooner and not later.

#5 of 34 I think we'll see it here. by raychuang00

Aug 16, 2004 (12:13 am)

Given the fact that Honda has designed the FR-V/Edix to meet the very stringent European New Car Assessment Programme (EuroNCAP) crash test standards, it means the vehicle will easily meet the NHTSA crash standards and will do well on the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) crash tests.
 
The US version--likely called Honda Latitude--could be unveiled as early as the Detroit International Auto Show in January 2005 to be sold as a 2006 model. It'll probably use the 2.4-liter I-4 i-VTEC drivetrain rated at 160 bhp, the same drivetrain used on the Honda CR-V small SUV (the Latitude might even replace the CR-V!).
 
It should be noted that the Acura RD-X concept car shown a few years ago looks suspiciously like the FR-V/Edix is now. That means the final Acura RDX small SUV due the fall of 2005 may look almost identical to the FR-V/Edix, but will likely have a different rear end design and also will likely have a 200 bhp Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) hybrid drivetrain.

#6 of 34 Re: Honda FR-V possibilities for US market by manbil7

Aug 16, 2004 (12:45 am)

"The US version--likely called Honda Latitude--could be unveiled as early as the Detroit International Auto Show in January 2005 to be sold as a 2006 model."
 
Interesting -- what is the source of your information?
 
"It'll probably use the 2.4-liter I-4 i-VTEC drivetrain rated at 160 bhp, the same drivetrain used on the Honda CR-V small SUV"
 
Bought my wife a 2003 CR-V EX AWD and love that engine (same as the accord but re-geared I think?). The Frame although monocoque is still quite heavy -- ergo mileage suffers (around 20 mpg overall)-- but the engine does deliver a lot of torque and punch. I live in South Orange County, Calif. (most people drive 60~70 mph on surface streets) and I can vouch that the SUV can keep up.
 
"(the Latitude might even replace the CR-V!)."
 
IMHO maybe not. The two cars have different markets altogether.
 
Interesting point -- when I go back to South and SE Asian Markets I notice most Japanese majors sell enlarged (stretched) minivan versions of every car platform they have which they call VERSO. Therefore Toyota has a YARIS verso (YARIS I think is smaller than the ECHO??) as well as COROLLA verso (Matrix?) and AVENSIS verso. The last one can actually seat 7 people in Asia and looks very similar to the Toyota WISH for the Thai Market that VCARRERAS mentioned. VERSOs are not fully developed minivans -- more like crossovers i.e. raised body wagons.

#7 of 34 by robertsmx

Aug 16, 2004 (8:32 am)

Edix/FR-V would make for a nice addition to Honda lineup here in NA. It is based off CR-V, and with 169 in length, it is 6 in shorter than Civic. European version gets 2.0 and 2.4 liter I-4 with 2.2-liter diesel expected to power it as well. The 2.4 and the diesel would give it plenty of potential for a reasonable success in the USA and Canada.

#8 of 34 Slight OT: We may see Verso here! by raychuang00

Aug 16, 2004 (7:53 pm)

manbil7,
 
Actually, there has been serious talk about bringing over the Toyota Corolla Verso to the US market, possibly powered by a variant of the Hybrid Synergy Drive drivetrain used on the Toyota Prius but with a bigger gasoline engine. It should be noted that the Corolla Verso is larger than the Matrix and could be quite popular with people who want the versatility of a minivan but not the minivan's bulk.
 
By the way, given that the upcoming Acura RDX small SUV will probably share a lot of components from the Honda FR-V/Edix models, that means the FR-V/Edix was probably designed to accommodate a four wheel drive drivetrain. If that is the case there is the possiblity that the next-generation CR-V will use the body of the FR-V/Edix but a somewhat different rear end treatment. (Hmmm!)

#9 of 34 by robertsmx

Aug 16, 2004 (8:33 pm)

Edix/FR-V is offered with AWD (not sure, RT-AWD or VTM-4).

#10 of 34 Re: verso models compared to FR-V by manbil7

Aug 17, 2004 (12:18 am)

Replying to: robertsmx (Aug 16, 2004 8:33 pm)
FR-V is probably closer in size to the Avensis Verso, pic here
 
http://www.d.lycos.de/startseite/auto/autogalerie/images/normal/1- - - - - - - 075805052toyota-avensis-verso-2.jpg
 
Corolla Verso shown below, maybe smaller than FR-V.
 
http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/gallery/albums/Misc/verso_post.jp- - - g
 
And last but not least -- smallest of the Toyota Versos the Yaris Verso! Hard to believe this is based on the Echo.
 
http://www.outrefranc.com/modeles/toyota/img/yarisverso2.jpg
 
http://www.d.lycos.de/startseite/auto/autogalerie/images/normal/1- 07467184020030413_1_2.jpg
 
Back side of Yaris Verso,
 
http://www.outrefranc.com/modeles/toyota/img/yarisverso3.jpg
 
http://www.d.lycos.de/startseite/auto/autogalerie/images/normal/1- 07467184020030413_1_1.jpg

#11 of 34 Re: verso models compared to FR-V [manbil7] by manbil7

Aug 17, 2004 (12:51 am)

Replying to: manbil7 (Aug 17, 2004 12:18 am)
One last thing. I have to mention the Honda Mobilio in passing as the still-active predecessor to a lot of the Honda vans and suv's (especially the larger FR-V) with revolutionary ideas. This small van has three row seats, very low floor, easy entry, auto door with safety etc.etc.
 
Still an example of super space-efficient design.
 
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/mobilio/interior/index.html
 
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/mobilio/style/index.html
 
http://www.honda.co.jp/MOBILIO/what/smart-open-door/index.html
 
No winner in the sexy dept. but a functional 'honest' beauty all it's own in a 'geeky' sort of way.
 
One variant of the Mobilio is called the spike --which is Honda's entry against the Scion Xb.
 
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/mobiliospike/style/index.html

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