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#91 of 5260 Re: - [dudleyr] by motownusa May 10, 2005 (6:57 am)
Replying to: dudleyr (May 10, 2005 6:28 am) My guess is both the 4 and 6 will get a hybrid version. I am assuming the V6 hybrid will produce similar HP and Torque like the Lexus RX400h and Highlander Hybrid. I think the V6 hybrid is needed to compete against the Accord Hybrid and the 4 cylinder will cater to those who cares more about fuel economy than performance
#92 of 5260 Probably by chris65amg May 10, 2005 (1:45 pm)
Toyota loves having the Camry as best selling car.... and the obvious was to get more sales is to offer more variations, no? Camry I-4 Camry V-6 Camry I-4 Hybrid Camry V-6 Hybrid   Toyota was smart enough to watch Honda rush to the midsize hybrid market with the Accord and fall right on their face. They can't just do an upper end one. That would puch the Camry up into Lexus territory, and I have no doubt that there will be an ES hybrid someday relatively soon....
#93 of 5260 Hybrid Camry by petl May 11, 2005 (5:53 am)
Toyota already has a midsize 4 cyl. hybrid (the first hybrid in the world). It's called the Prius. I don't think they are in a hurry to manufacture a 4 cyl. hybrid Camry. A high end hybrid Camry model is all that would be required at this time. Until the manufacturing price comes down, the demand would propably not be there.
#94 of 5260 - by dudleyr May 11, 2005 (7:39 am)
Yes they have the Prius, but it is still smaller than the Camry, and is relatively slow. A hybrid Camry could have better acceleration than the 4-cyl Camry, which is already quite a bit quicker than the Prius.   Also, unlike Honda, Toyota already has several V-6 hybrids - Highlander and RX.   If Toyota wants to mainstream the hybrid, then the 4-cyl Camry is the way to go.   Personally a 4-cyl Camry hybrid would be at the top of my list (if they had a wagon that would be better) if it had a manual transmission. I would not even bother to look at a V-6 hybrid - too expensive and minimal (if any) improvement in mpg over a manual tranny 4-cyl.   Honda is coming out with a new larger Civic this fall that will have a hybrid and a manual tranny, so that is a possibility as well. Replies to this message: petl (May 11, 2005 11:28 am)
#95 of 5260 Re: - [dudleyr] by petl May 11, 2005 (11:28 am)
Replying to: dudleyr (May 11, 2005 7:39 am) You may be right (with a 4 cyl. Camry). I don't agree. The interior space is quite adequate in the Prius. The liftback also makes the trunk space quite useful. However, if memory serves me, the acceleration of the Prius is similar to the 4 cyl. Camry. I'm not into the technology, but wouldn't a manual be redundant with a CVT (Continuasly Variable Transmission)? It would already give you maximum gas mileage. Time will tell.
#96 of 5260 - by dudleyr May 11, 2005 (12:51 pm)
While there are a dozen reasons I prefer a manual tranny to an automatic, the most important is fun .   Honestly I would take a manual Camry over an automatic BMW. I drove my brothers automatic 530i and just did not get the whole push on the gas and let the car shift thing. Yes it has whatevertronic, but that is pointless - shifting for show.   The Prius is quite roomy, and I love the hatch (as I said wagons are my preference and hatches are a close second). The Camry is still quite a bit roomier. The hatch area (up to the ceiling) is included in EPA class measurements, so that is why the Prius is in the same category as the Camry.   As far as acceleration goes - don't forget that all the comparisons that may show the Prius to be not very far behind the Camry are comparing two automatics. The manual Camry is about a second faster to 60 than the automatic.
#97 of 5260 Yeah, but... by 210delray May 11, 2005 (12:54 pm)
...just try to find a manual Camry. I actually saw one '04 SE on the local dealer's lot.
#98 of 5260 - by dudleyr May 11, 2005 (12:57 pm)
Darcars in Rockville, MD has 6 of them on the lot right now, and my local dealer had one a little while ago and they never have more than 3 or 4 Camrys at a time. It sold in a week. Yes they are rare, but they are out there.
#99 of 5260 speaking of manuals by alpha01 May 11, 2005 (1:11 pm)
IMO, a manual transmission, Camry SE with alloys, side curtains/airbags, and rear spoiler is a tremendous value, IMO: $22,346 MSRP and under $20 selling price with good negotiating. You've got it all right there- better handling, good pep, nice wheels, great safety features, top-notch fuel economy, plenty of room, moonroof, I could go on and on. Its cheaper than a like Accord EX 5M and has a power drivers seat, fog lamps, rear spoiler to boot.   ~alpha
#100 of 5260 - by dudleyr May 11, 2005 (7:23 pm)
Yes the SE manual is a good deal.   For me though, a Camry standard with the manual tranny at 16.5k and sometimes 15.9k is even better. I much prefer to not have a spoiler or a sunroof, and I don't like silver gauges (not enough contrast). I wouldn't mind the suspension of the SE though, but 3-4k buys a lot of tires shocks etc.   The only thing I really miss would be the keyless entry, but that is pretty minor since I live in a town where it is not necessary to lock you car. Replies to this message: alpha01 (May 11, 2005 7:39 pm) dudleyr (May 12, 2005 5:47 am)

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