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#822 of 5338 New Camry and Accord Sales:
Dec 04, 2005 (10:07 pm)
It looks better than the current model in my opinion. 1995-1996 still stands as the best looking Camry. The tailights have ES330 written all over them. The front looks like they combined the tailights of the 97 and 02 Camry. Grille looks very bull-doggish. Its still too conservative but I am a Honda and Mazda guy so I guess the bland opinion of the 07 Camry is expected from me. The seats look good of the new Camry from what I could see. We'll see what the Solara brings to the table style-wise. I know Toyota is trying to get better with their styling but they look like they don't want to be bold enough with the Camry and maybe alienate older buyers maybe. The TC and the GS they took styling chances and it has worked out good for them.
As for the Accord I do not like the current Accord. The new back clip helps it but its not styled the way it should be. The 96-97 bodystyle was the best looking Accord bodystyle in my opinion.
#823 of 5338 Re: Then why are Accord sales struggling to get to 400k? [alpha01]
Dec 05, 2005 (5:55 am)
Actually incentives are not a bad thing in consideration that Hyundai has a legitimate contender in the Sonata. The bottom line remains selling the most vehicles and making the most profit in the end. As long as it doesnt end up being a GM situation Incentives are not anything more than recognition that Toyota is the price leader and every other maker prices their vehicles down from the Toyota model.
In the last 9 months as the Camry came into it's lame duck period the incentives have actually been reduced somewhat in comparison to the last 4 years. From memory, in our region the incentive has normally been about $1000. Now it's $750 which is very moderate for what is the highest priced vehicle in the class.
#824 of 5338 Incentives and fleet sales
Dec 05, 2005 (6:28 am)
When I purchased my '04 Camry in Feb. 2004, the rebate was $750 plus 2.9% financing for up to 5 years. When I purchased my '05 in May 2005, the rebate also was $750, but this could not be combined with the special rate financing, which was 3.9%. I took the rebate and financed with my credit union.
Regarding fleet sales, I recently read in Automotive News that Toyota's fleet sales are about 7%, IIRC, for all Toyotas, not necessarily the Camry by itself.
Honda's fleet sales are minimal, about 1%. The domestic makers, meanwhile, have fleet sales on the order of 20-25%.
Dec 05, 2005 (9:31 am)
I found some more pics of thy camry....
I'm considering either a hopefully discounted 2006 LE model or maybe the 2007 LE v6 if they up the fuel economy. What annoyed me about the Avalon was that it had better milleage (22/31mpg), especially in the city. Now that's downright insulting to midsize owners. I DEMAND to have the Avalon's economy and then some 'cause it's a smaller vehicle. To hell with the Malibu and it's pathetic fuel-saving, yet unreliable electric steering.
I hate the way Toyota changed the looks of their bread n' butter car to make it look more sporty. Wrong direction IMHO. I'm ok with the front but the rear is almost a copy of the Avalon. I sincerely hope it doesn't compromise cargo space. Look at the Avalon: 14.4 cu ft.
I'm no engineer, but I hope the lengthening of the wheelbase doesn't reduce the already-impressive turning radius of the camry LE. I also liked the higher roofline as it helped even things out with all these taller sedans on the road and gives more headroom. I prefer comfort as opposed to style. My 2 cents only.
What I want:
standard four wheel discs that are larger
LASER cruise control (like on Avalon)
torquey 4 banger
wider car, if ain't gonna be longer
stronger sheet metal for higher side impact protection
A continuation of the good turning circle
Perhaps those high-intensity discharge lamps (aka blinders)
What I don't want:
#826 of 5338 Re: More Camry pics [cartwright]
Dec 05, 2005 (10:17 am)
From the earlier posts, the '07 will have a larger trunk. The overall height is reduced only about 3/4 inch, so it's unlikely there will be much effect on headroom. Unfortunately, interior photos show the "gated" (zigzag) shifter.
It will almost certainly have better side impact protection. I'd still expect rear drum brakes on the lower line 4-cylinders.
#827 of 5338 Re: More Camry pics [cartwright]
Dec 05, 2005 (10:37 am)
Those are not new pics. You reposted the same pictures that were posted here days ago.
Some of those things will be on the new Camry, the rest you need to just get an Avalon instead of expecting everything the Avalon has to be on the cheaper Camry.
Why would anyone buy an Avalon in that case?
Do you think Toyota wants to kill the sales of the Avalon by putting all the features of an Avalon on another car selling for thousands less?
#828 of 5338 Re: More Camry pics [jaxs1]
Dec 05, 2005 (10:42 am)
Well, except a V8 option, the Lexus IS has every single feature available on the Lexus GS. The only real difference is interior room.
#829 of 5338 Re: More Camry pics [jrock65]
Dec 05, 2005 (10:48 am)
Those are major items. The V8 is major and the rear seat of the IS is almost unusable, so if you need to use the rear seat, you have to get something other than the IS.
Both the Camry and Avalon have rear seats that can fit adults comfortably.
#830 of 5338 Re: More Camry pics [210delray]
Dec 05, 2005 (11:00 am)
FWIW, the Japanese domestic market version of the new Camry has 4 wheel discs standard on all 4 cylinder trim levels.
#831 of 5338 Re: More Camry pics [cartwright]
Dec 05, 2005 (11:28 am)
There is over ~150lb weight gain. In order for it to go faster, they have to lower the gear to keep it going. On the other hand, fuel economy most likely will decrease(hopefully unchange). For instance, the Yaris is heavier compare to echo after redesign and the engine was unchange, the mpg decreases! Accord V6 boosts hp for 2006, however, the mpg also goes down!
Still no 4WD available in NA?