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#5225 of 5338 2007 Toyota Camry - Short Block
Apr 21, 2009 (12:55 pm)
I bought my 07 Camry XLE in Oct 2006. From the very 1st oil change something was wrong. Shy of 1,000 miles for oil change when making turns the dash would flash a msg which read "Low Oil Pressure". I informed the DCH Tech about the flash message. Nothing was done. Each time the car was due for an oil change I made mention of the message flash on the dash when I made turns and only when the car was around 1,000 miles short of an oil change. In March 2009 I took my car to my local mechanic to change the breaks (yes I use genuine toyota parts). On my way I made a turn and the flash message low oil pressure lit my dash. When my mechanic finished the brakes he checked the oil it was empty. It's routine for the mechanic to check the fluids before returning the car to its owner. We authorized him to put oil in, 3 quarts total.
My maintenance light came on just last Thursday, April 9, 2009. The breaks were changed on March 21, 2009. On Friday, April 10, 2009 I took the car in to DCH for oil change and told them about the message flashed on the dash, but this time also that my mechanic put 3 qrt of oil and showed the tech the reciept. I told the tech that I've been telling DCH techs each time the car was due for an oil change and nothing was done since. Now they finally payed attention and duly noted that there could be a problem. I was told the pan plug was marked to assure no one tampers with it and I should return the car w/in 500 miles for an oil consumption test. I took the car in today 04/21/2009 and finally they found a problem. The car was in deed consuming more oil than the manufactures recommendations and they would need to open the engine to fix the problem.
I received a call a few hours later and was told there is a Internal Problem with the Short Block and it would need to be rebuild.
Is this normal for a Short Block on the engine to go bad so fast. (less than 50K miles). I would expect the short block to go bad on a car with over 150K miles and poor maintenance record.
Anyone out there experience this same problem? What makes a Short Block go bad so early? Anyone, Someone, Please let me know. Thank you.
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#5226 of 5338 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry - Short Block [jamed]
Apr 21, 2009 (3:59 pm)
I-4 or V6 engine? In either case, you just have very bad luck - this is not at all normal. Like anything mechanical, it is subject to have a problem. Your problem is extremely rare, and was the result of a manufacturing defect. I know the I4 engine can go 200,000 + miles easy with no problems (it is the same as the 2002-2006 I-4 Camry engine). I am sure the V6 is also great - I don't recall reading about any short block problems with it.
I have worked in manufacturing all my life (although not automotive) and there are occasionally defects no matter how good the quality control is.
Fortunately, they will repair it under warranty and give you a free loaner. You should be fine after that.
#5227 of 5338 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry - Short Block [mcdawgg]
Apr 22, 2009 (8:39 am)
Another advantage of DIY oil/filer changes, I always get to see how much oil I have drained from the engine. Measure would be more accurate, as I always pour the oil from my drain pan into the now emply containers until the comes for the trip to the recycle center.
Because of the way dealers drain the oil the fact that your engine didn't have enough left could have gone un-noticed even if a competent mechanic had been doing the routine, repetitive scheduled maintenance procedures, that day rather then the typical McD "flipper" graduate.
But your statement to them should have most certainly meant a "heads up" to somebody.
#5228 of 5338 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry - Short Block [jamed]
May 13, 2009 (5:46 am)
My 2007 Camry is doing the same thing. 30K.
I hope Toyta finds and corrects the problem.
Using 1 quart of oil for every 1500 miles of driving.
#5229 of 5338 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry - Short Block [bob255]
May 19, 2009 (5:53 pm)
1.) How often do you change your oil and filter?
2.) What oil are you putting into the engine?
I have a 2007 V6 Camry with almost 48000 miles. I change the oil and filter every 2,500 miles, and I check the oil once a week. I have NEVER added any oil to this engine, even on long highway trips!
You could be leaking oil! I just had an exterior oil line replaced as part of an extended warranty repair!
Best regards. ------------ Dwayne
#5230 of 5338 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry - Short Block [djm2]
May 23, 2009 (2:39 am)
OIl change every 3500-4000 miles. No sign of oil leaks. The manual that comes with the Camry states that the engine can use oil. I have had the dealer document that the engine is using one quart of oil for every 1400 miles of driving. Toyota says this is normal??? Because Toyota has it stated in the car manual, I am stuck with the car. So, I check the oil level and add as needed. Lesson: read the car manual before you buy a new car, especially a Toyota product. Car now has 30k on it.
#5231 of 5338 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry - Short Block [bob255]
May 23, 2009 (6:52 am)
I think you will find this through out the auto world. Most don't fix engine until you get to about 700+ miles per quart of oil.
#5232 of 5338 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry - Short Block [bob255]
May 24, 2009 (3:23 pm)
Thirty years ago, burning a quart every 1000 miles or so was typical so that became the norm. Today's engines are so much tighter, many don't even burn a quart in the 3-5000 change interval. However, those that do are still considered normal by just about all the manufacturers. You just happen to get an engine whose oil consumption is on the left side of the bell shaped curve. An inconvenience perhaps, but not really a big deal.
#5233 of 5338 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry - Short Block [bob255]
May 25, 2009 (3:37 am)
Good Morning Bob255:
1.) When did the engine start to use oil?
2.) You stated that you now have 30,000 miles on the vehicle. Did the engine use oil from day one?
3.) Does the Toyota Dealer do all of your oil & filter changes?
4.) What kind of oil are they installing in the engine?
I live in N.J., and my Toyota Dealer recommends an oil additive (BG / MOA) to be used in the oil. I have been using this product since day one. ----------- (I know Toyota DOES NOT recommend an oil additive, but on the other side of the issue, Toyota engines in the past have had a "sludge issue!") --------- When I pull the dip-stick to check the oil, my oil is as clean as the first day that I picked up the vehicle at the dealership. ----------- I change my oil and filter every 2500 miles. (I know that Toyota recommends 5,000 mile intervals, but again, their engines had a "sludge issue" in the past!)
I would like to know how many 2007 V6 Camry owners are having this problem!
Best regards: ----- Dwayne
#5234 of 5338 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry - Short Block [djm2]
May 25, 2009 (4:07 am)
My 2007 Camry 4cyl LE has consumed oil from day one. I first checked oil at 1500 miles. 2 quarts low. since them about one quart for every 1400 miles of driving.
Oil changed by dealer and Firestone.
Put in 5W-20W.
Toyota says if the engine uses one quart of oil for 1200 miles or less it indicates an engine repair.
Dealer documented car uses one quart of oil approximately every 1400 miles of driving.
The owners manual puts the responsibility on the owner to check the oil levels.
Toyota will not do anything for me at this time.