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#5166 of 5338 Re: Who plans on keeping their 2007 Camry for more than 100,000 miles? [mackabee]
Nov 21, 2007 (5:37 am)
Good Morning Mackabee:
As you know from my previous postings, I own a 2007 V6 XLE Camry. I will be taking this vehicle in for service on December 3rd for the 20,000 mile service, and the vehicle will be one year old in January. ------ Yes, I drive alot! ------ Since purchasing this vehicle, I have been reading these boards dealing with the transmission issue and other problems associated with this vehicle. ------ I have not observed the problems, (that have been described in the "postings"), on my vehicle.--------- Could I be the "lucky person" who received the only "good Toyota"? I will keep my Camry for three years. At that time I will have about 75,000 + miles. Based on my current satisfaction, I will look at another Camry. If I do not purchase another Camry, it will not be because of the "postings on this site," but rather, it will be a comfort issue related to the ride and / or seating.
I would think that with all the complaining about the product, this board would see more postings! ------- QUESTIONS: ---- What was the total production run for Toyota Camry in the United States? ---- Out of that figure, how many Toyota Camry vehicles have or had the transmission problem? ---- What is different between the vehicles with the problem and those without the problem? ----- Is this a real production / operating / mechanical / electronic problem, or is it an "individual driving style" that creates this operational issue, because of the interaction of the driver with the vehicle? ------- I would imagine, that a driver who is very aggressive, would have issues with a drive by wire vehicle, because there is a "delay" in the throttle response. But, that is a "driver issue" not a vehicle issue! --------- Maybe a "driver re-education program" is needed!
Why are people so silent about their intentions to keep or sell their Camry? ---------- I am beginning to believe that "IF" the problem does exist, it is only in a very small percentage of vehicles, or it is a self-induced problem, based on the "driving style" of the individual operator. Remember this is a drive by wire vehicle, not a cable operated throttle! I noticed the difference a week after I took delivery, when I was caught in a snow storm. Working the throttle in "deep snow" is a different process with a "drive by wire vehicle," as opposed to a "cable controlled throttle," because of the slight delay in throttle response!
Best Regards! --------- Dwayne
#5167 of 5338 Re: Who plans on keeping their 2007 Camry for more than 100,000 miles? [djm
Nov 21, 2007 (9:44 am)
"Could I be the "lucky person" who received the only "good Toyota"?"
I think it's a well established maxim that unhappy consumers are more likely to vent about their unhappiness on the internet or elsewhere than are happy consumers. I would venture a guess that only a fraction of 1 percent of Camry owners know about the Edmunds board.
No conclusions about the Camry can be drawn based on the relatively high percentage of unhappy Camry owners who post here. Even the best product will have some unhappy owners.
Fyi, 346,000 Camrys were built in Kentucky through October per the Toyota Pressroom site. I'll bet 345,000 of the owners are happy and the rest have posted in this forum.
#5168 of 5338 Re: Who plans on keeping their 2007 Camry for more than 100,000 miles? [djm [lmacmil]
Nov 21, 2007 (10:27 am)
>346,000 Camrys were built in Kentucky through October per the Toyota Pressroom site. I'll bet 345,000 of the owners are happy and the rest have posted in this forum.
You are making the extreme unlike assumption that all people complaining are currently posting their complaints on this forum and are the only ones who have a problem car. And you assume the happy people are too busy to post here.
I treat the posting as more a sampling of the balance of those who realize they have a problem in a car and those who don't realize a problem is there or don't care and post because they want everyone to know they made a good choice in their car purchase and are, of course, happy with their perfect car.
#5169 of 5338 Re: Who plans on keeping their 2007 Camry for more than 100,000 miles? [djm2]
Nov 21, 2007 (10:29 am)
"because there is a "delay" in throttle response..."
"...that is a driver issue, not a vehicle issue...."
Baring other issues, considerations, I would have my software team fix any complaints of this type INSTANTLY, not allow the complaints to be ongoing for what, 2003 til...??
No, there is an underlying reason Toyota and Lexus have programmed a delay into the DBW system under certain circumstances, circumstances very adequately described, apparently, in the '93 Camry TSB.
#5171 of 5338 2007 Camry V6 XLE up-date
Dec 17, 2007 (7:17 am)
I just had the 20,000 mile service performed on the Camry. Since I do an extensive amount of driving on the highway, in addition to the oil and filter change, I had them check the brakes, flush the hydraulic brake system, rotate the tires and check the four wheel alignment. (The Camry will be one year old in January).
The vehicle is still a pleasure to drive. There are no issues with the automatic transmission. Now that the cold weather has arrived, I make it a point to warm-up the vehicle, while I remove the snow and ice from the windshield. The one thing that I do not like about the vehicle is the recessed windshield wipers. The ice and snow gets caught in the wipers, and under the hood! This can be a problem to remove. (Some warm water helps the process. Do not use HOT water!!!!! )
At the next service in Feb., I will have the automatic trans fluid changed. (Just some quality preventive maintenance). This should be done every 20,000 miles or once a year which every comes first, (especially if the vehicle sees "stop and go driving" on a regular basis.)
A CHRISTMAS GREETING:
Wishing you a beautiful Holiday Season and a New Year of Peace and Happiness. ------------ MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A VERY HAPPY, HEALTHY & SUCCESSFUL NEW YEAR!
Best regards -------- Dwayne
#5172 of 5338 Re: 2007 Camry V6 XLE up-date [djm2]
Dec 17, 2007 (2:34 pm)
Who recommended an auto trans fluid change at 20,000 miles? Your dealer? The service manual interval is what, 100,000 miles? If you do it before 50,000 miles, you're wasting your money.
#5173 of 5338 Re: 2007 Camry V6 XLE up-date [lmacmil]
Dec 18, 2007 (4:33 am)
Good Morning Imacmil:
Kindly be advised that the dealer recommends that the automatic transmission fluid be changed every 30,000 miles. Since I put on the mileage very quickly, it is just easier for me to do this service on or about the delivery date of the vehicle every year. As we all know from the postings on these boards, the transmission on the Camry is NOT its strong point! ---------- I will be doing alot of driving between now and Feb., so at the time of the trans service, I will have about 25,000 miles on the vehicle. I need to do the service when I have the free time. Next year at this time, the vehicle will probably have between 40,000 and 45,000 miles. I don't drink or smoke, so I guess that I spend my money on extreme vehicle maintenance. (My body appreciates my decision about drinking and smoking, and my vehicle operates like the day I drove it out of the showroom.) It is a "win / win" situation!!!!!!! --------------- Best regards and Merry Christmas ------------- Dwayne
#5174 of 5338 Re: 2007 Camry V6 XLE up-date [djm2]
Dec 18, 2007 (6:05 am)
Ok Dwayne. I guess doing more maintenance than necessary is better than the contrary. Just be aware that most dealers make more money on service than on new/used car sales so it's in their best interest (not yours) to recommend service more often than the manufacturer. I'm glad you are enjoying your Camry. I like mine too.
#5175 of 5338 Fuel Additive for winter driving?
Dec 23, 2007 (6:50 am)
Is anyone using a fuel additive for winter driving? A friend of mine is using a product called "Lucas Fuel Treatment"! ---- He uses 3 ounces for every 10 gallons of fuel. He claims that this product keeps the fuel system clean, and it lubricates the fuel system components.
Best regards & Happy Holidays. ----- Dwayne