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Replying to: 210delray (Aug 19, 2006 7:18 pm) Hopefully the Toyota engineers are working on the hesitation problems some I4 owners are having. The dealers are caught in the middle. They get blasted from the owners but don't know what to do without a TSB or guidance from Toyota. |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Aug 19, 2006 9:48 am) The "market" is less a reflection of what people think they want than the degree of success of Madison Avenue advertising hype which Toyota has been enjoying in promoting its mediocre cars as "quality paradigms." I could care less about a crappy 4 cylinder engine. I already have one of these in a Subaru Outback and it gives poorer highway fuel mileage than my Impala SS sans the breathtaking acceleraton and smooth automatic transmission perfectly mated to the car's power plant. Your perception of GM is based not on their present level of quality but the "reputational baggage" of the '80's and '90's whereas today's GM car is a far cry from then in both quality and features. The most amusing thing, however, is that while GM's quality curve is rising, Toyota's is falling as evidenced by the many complaints on the automotive boards and their escalating number of vehicle recalls but this fact has not yet become widely known to the market as the company still enjoys the quality reputation of the 80's and 90's. That will change in due time as it eventually did for Mercedes.
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| are you aware you're posting heresy on a Toyota forum? (Hey, fellers, git a rope!) | |
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Folks, this discussion is dedicated to the Camry. There are existing comparison topics that may be helpful and, of course, any new one may be created at any time. Just go to the top level Camry board and hit the Add a Discussion link. Continuing debate about other vehicles doesn't belong here. Thanks. |
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Replying to: priggly (Aug 19, 2006 11:28 pm) since well over 60% of all midsized vehicles are 4c models, and possibly as much as 75% taking the Prius, Corolla and Civic into account, your view of the wants of the American buying public are about 25 yrs out of date. This is not a 'Toyota-sponsered' Madison Ave conspiracy to emasculate the detroiters it's simply a reflection of what the public wants across every product line; Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Subaru, VW and now even Ford and GM. Niche vehicles like the SS are nice have a limited shelf life.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Aug 21, 2006 2:44 pm) As I said, I could care less about what you perceive to be the general public's appetite for whiny little 4 cylinder engines. However, I am gratified by GM's consideration in catering to my particular driving tastes by making a scrumptious 8 cylinder masterpiece in the 5.3 liter variable displacement V-8: 4 cylinders if I want to creep along, 8 if I want a real engine. Niche vehicles like the SS are nice have a limited shelf life. Limited shelf life, huh? Are you aware just how many decades GM has been making available cars with the SS designation? As long as Toyota has been selling cars in the U.S., that's how long. And, oh yes, more about that legendary Toyota quality: "Andrew Phillips of Nikko Citigroup stated "Toyota's resources have been stretched quite a bit by the big increases in volume." Shinsei Securities analyst Yasuhiro Matsumoto lays the blame for Toyota’s declining quality squarely on Katsuaki Watanabe’s shoulders. He claims the CEO’s constant focus on cost cutting has created devastating production glitches. The resulting quality issues have become so alarming that Watanabe recently admitted, "I take this seriously and see it as a crisis."' http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=2043
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Replying to: priggly (Aug 21, 2006 10:06 pm) A perceived crisis for Toyota might be the norm for other manufacturers. There are some growing pains (much to the delight of some). The difference between Toyota and the others is money. Toyota has approx. 20 billion in cash, time deposits and marketable securities. They have the funds to fix the current glitch. If you want the truth about cars, read this unbiased article. C:\Documents and Settings\lascep\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\OLK38\article.htm |
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Replying to: petl (Aug 22, 2006 5:54 am) |
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Replying to: mboliver (Aug 22, 2006 6:03 am) http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000101&sid=aGEj8tQXXupw&refer=japan
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| I thought this forum was about the 07 Camry, not the Impala or how good or bad Toyota quality is. I think some house cleaning might be in order. | |
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