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Re: Things Toyota missed with the 2007 Camry [lzc]
by bigdaveinomaha
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Aug 16, 2006 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: lzc (Aug 16, 2006 10:06 am)
I fully understand that limiting options increases efficiency and nobody does it better than Toyota. But the options I'm looking for are readily available during manufacturing. The charcoal interior and 17" wheels are available on a fellow Camry and the Xenon's are available on the Avalon. Is it really that much more difficult to put a 17" wheel in front of a robot for a few days of manufacturing?
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Re: Things Toyota missed with the 2007 Camry [bigdaveinomaha]
by petl
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Aug 16, 2006 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: bigdaveinomaha (Aug 16, 2006 10:18 am)
There is always the Lexus 350. Unfortunately, Toyota builds the Camry for the masses (what the majority want). If these features are very important to you, the XLE Camry may not be your vehicle. The new XLE no longer has split folding back seats (big disappointment for me). They were very useful. The new 6cyl can only tow 1,000lbs (3,500lbs was the previous limit). Again, not happy. I'm sure Toyota won't change them for me. I have a choice, buy or move on. The bottom line is, it's still a good car (not perfect). Good Luck.
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Re: Things Toyota missed with the 2007 Camry [bigdaveinomaha]
by lzc
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Aug 16, 2006 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: bigdaveinomaha (Aug 16, 2006 10:18 am)
>>Is it really that much more difficult to put a 17" wheel in front of a robot for a few days of manufacturing?
If you limit it to one option for a few days only, of course not. But multiply that over all the possibilities and time frames, which is what people want, and the answer is yes. Believe me, Toyota has done the the math.
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Re: Things Toyota missed with the 2007 Camry [bigdaveinomaha]
by kdhspyder
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Aug 16, 2006 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: bigdaveinomaha (Aug 16, 2006 5:55 am)
All good points ...
1) the Charcoal in the SE only is a corporate characteristic throughout all Toyota vehicles. Getting this changed would require more than an act of Congress. Charcoal and Black are never in any of the LE, XLE, XLS trims of any model; Camry, Corolla, 4Runner, Avalon.
2) 16" wheels are likely a manufacturing efficiency matter; less variation means lower costs. In addition the 17"ers will ride a little stiffer which is not what the XLE buyer is looking for.
3) Xenon headlights are likely the future but for now they are 'special'. The Lexus' have them but so does the Prius. By not offering them at first allows there to be some room for midcycle tweaks and additions. In the same way, the 3.5L can be tuned up to 300+hp for some Lexus models it likely has room for improvement over the next 10 years of it's life.
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Re: Things Toyota missed with the 2007 Camry [kdhspyder]
by jaxs1
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Aug 16, 2006 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Aug 16, 2006 11:58 am)
Blinding oncoming traffic is not a safety feature and very, few people will get any benefit from brighter headlights in their daily travels due to street lighting and other lighting in most developed areas.
People like to say maybe they will drive out in the wilderness on a 2 lane unlit road at 75 MPH at 2 am and want or "need" super bright lights, but the reality is, most just want to show off since Xenon lights = "BLING."
You probably won't like having your fancy Xenons stolen and put on other Camrys who's owners didn't get they option when they purchased the car, but want to stick them on their car anyway.
See Maxima owners and their high insurance rates due to frequently stolen Xenon headlights.
Xenon headlights are probably as big or bigger of a theft magnet as fancy aftermarket rims and stereos.
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Re: Oil filter location [califfam]
by nifty56
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Aug 16, 2006 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: califfam (Jul 30, 2006 8:06 pm)
I have a Mazda 3 that has or had a canister filter. Changed to a spin on filter by changing the oil filter housing. I also have a 1956 Oldsmobile that in those days had the canister filter. I also changed the oil filter housing to take a spin on. I believe the manufactures are using the canister to make it difficult for the DIY selfers and for the quick lube jockeys. Maybe a housing will be available for the V6. But of course there might be a waranty issue by doing the change
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Re: Things Toyota missed with the 2007 Camry [jaxs1]
by bigdaveinomaha
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Aug 16, 2006 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Aug 16, 2006 4:40 pm)
Xenon lights does not equal "bling" for me. If I wanted bling, do you really think I would buy a Camry? I do live in the city but must drive 25 miles on a two lane highway to get to work every day. Xenon's would most certainly come in handy since last October there were 42 deer accidents on that stretch of road alone. And I am certainly not worried about getting my lights stolen where I live. I am fortunate to live in an area where that crap doesn't happen very often. Two or three years from now every Chevy and Ford will come equipped with Xenon's and I don't think I should be behind the curve in a 30K car.
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Re: Things Toyota missed with the 2007 Camry [bigdaveinomaha]
by jaxs1
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Aug 16, 2006 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: bigdaveinomaha (Aug 16, 2006 7:05 pm)
Plenty of people driving Lexuses and BMWs who live in very nice neighborhoods still get their Xenons stolen. The optional Xenons are also a high theft item on the Lexus RX330s.
The belief that your Xenons can't be stolen because you live in too nice of a neighborhood for the possibility isn't a valid one.
Do you plan to always leave the car parked in your garage, never park at malls and airports or anywhere else that isn't as nice of a neighborhood as yours?
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Re: Things Toyota missed with the 2007 Camry [jaxs1]
by bigdaveinomaha
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Aug 17, 2006 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Aug 16, 2006 7:31 pm)
Jaxs1 let me ask you this: Have you ever been out of your house or apartment? If yes, did you take everything with you? Because if not then your point is moot. We all own things that are valuable to us and everything is subject to theft. However, I choose not to go through life worrying about things with such little possibilities. Let's remember what this post was about in the first place. I just want the option of Xenon's for the Camry. They are not the Devil.
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