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#3901 of 5338 Trouble with Driver Side Door Arm Rest
Jun 15, 2006 (6:41 am)
Has anyone that has a new 2007 Camry experienced any discomfort with the new armrest on the doors? My wife is petite (5'2") and when she moves the driver's side seat up so that she can reach the pedals, she cannot rest her left arm on the door armrest as that crazy door handle is in the way and makes it very very uncomfortable, even short drives. Has anyone else experienced this type of problem? I 6 feet tall and usually drive with the seat all the way back and it is not even comfortable for me as I can'tlay my arm straight out. What was Toyota thinking about with this design, it sure wasn't comfort.
I think the Camry is a great vehicle as we have had two previous ones (1999 and 2005)but this level of uncomfort from something so simple is hard to deal with. Any suggestions?
#3902 of 5338 Re: Trouble with Driver Side Door Arm Rest [tuffy]
Jun 15, 2006 (7:51 am)
Guess you must have not noticed that on the test drive. I have not driven a 2007 Camry, but I can see based on its design how you certainly could be experiencing the problem.
I guess even Toyota can miss ergonomic issues now and then.
I once had an Chevy Celebrity (Worst new car I ever owned, by the way) that had such a hard drivers arm rest that I would pad it with a towel whenever I went on a long trip as it pained the elbow after a while, so this kind of niggling problem can be very irritating.
Don't know what recourse you have at this point, maybe a get a Sawzall and do a bit of interior body work?
#3903 of 5338 Re: Blue Optitron Gauges [neno8403]
Jun 15, 2006 (9:54 am)
I will take some pictures tonight. Are yours very blue? Or just slightly? I know this isn't a really important issue, but I liked the idea of having blue and there isn't another SE in my area that I can compare to. If I have the wrong color, I would like to get it corrected.
#3904 of 5338 Re: Trouble with Driver Side Door Arm Rest [badgerfan]
Jun 15, 2006 (10:56 am)
Yes you are right, I did not notice it on the test drive. The concept is so poorly designed that anyone regardless of their height is going to experience some level of discomfort as you can never lay your arm out flat at any of the four doors as this is an issue at all four locations. It is just exaserbated for the driver on long trips and really bad when the seat is closer to the front as a short person cannot even rest their left elbow as there is no place to put it.
I am looking foward to the 2009 refresh for a much needed fix to this issue, better sunvisors, a new 4 cylinder engine with a substantially improved mileage and horsepower rating (even though the current 4 cylinder is great), a better trunk hinge system, a memory selection button to adjust the driver's seat, steering wheel and mirrors for 2 different drivers on the XLE models, the smart key system in the SE and XLE 4 cylinder, and a quest for an even quieter cabin.
I sure hope the folks at Toyota see this to consider the fixes and upgrades I have mentioned, especially the fix for the door armrests. Also,maybe a choice for a darker fake wood for the gray interiors instead of that baby poop colored light stuff that is now the only option on the XLEs.
For any owners, please let me know if you think the door side armrest are as bad as I am describing.
Thanks and have a good afternoon.
#3905 of 5338 Re: Trouble with Driver Side Door Arm Rest [tuffy]
Jun 15, 2006 (12:20 pm)
Maybe you should post your suggestions over in the "2007 Camry Woes" discussion. There is a Toyota Rep monitoring that discussion by the handle tmsusa.
#3906 of 5338 Re: Trouble with Driver Side Door Arm Rest [tuffy]
Jun 15, 2006 (12:28 pm)
There has always been a significant 'content' differentiation between the Camry and the Avalon. It's intentional IMO.
Except for the armrest item which is valid for shorter drivers ( I find it comfortable actually ) the other suggestions are mainly Avalon-directed. Even the XL Avalon does not have all the features you suggest for the Camry. This differentiation is why there are different trim levels.
#3907 of 5338 Re: Blue Optitron Gauges [krae13937]
Jun 15, 2006 (12:42 pm)
CLICK ON THE IMAGE TO ENLARGE
I don't know how blue you want them but this is the "Aqua Blue" that should be standard on all SE's. Mine are clearly blue and can't be mistaken for white. Its a very nice blue IMO.
#3908 of 5338 Re: Trouble with Driver Side Door Arm Rest [tuffy]
Jun 15, 2006 (12:45 pm)
The car you are describing already exists...its called the Lexus ES350. Toyota IS NOT going to add all of those features. If you want them either step up to the Avalon or even furthur up to the Lexus ES350 or be content with the Camry. They might add a very tiny fraction of the features you described but no way are they adding that huge list of yours.
#3909 of 5338 Re: Blue Optitron Gauges [krae13937]
Jun 15, 2006 (12:46 pm)
I have an SE with 4cyl and my guages are white. I do like the idea of having blue.
#3910 of 5338 Re: Trouble with Driver Side Door Arm Rest [neno8403]
Jun 15, 2006 (12:55 pm)
This a Ford or Chevy equivalent, not a Lincoln or Cadillac.
I would have never made it in Customer Service listening to the would be Designers/Engineers, whiners, complainers, etc., about what the vehicle should look like, drive like, model lineup, included options, or available option/packages. They think the vehicle was designed just for them: their height, weight, reach, hearing, and capabilities.