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#2609 of 5338 Re: 5 Speed Manual Camry CE, LE & SE [210delray]
Apr 09, 2006 (1:37 pm)
Are you sure that the new 2007 Camry 5 speed manual is built in Japan? I purchased a brand new 1997 Camry CE with a 5 speed manual back in 1997 and it was built in Georgetown, Kentucky.
How can I find out whether or not the 2007 Camry 5 speed manual is really built in Japan? Is there anyone at Toyota of America who can give me information about this? If I decide to purchase a brand new 2007 Camry 5 speed, I want it to be built in Japan, not here in the United States. My 97 Camry was a good car, but it had "fit and finish" quality problems when I purchased it. The widow gaskets around each of the doors got sucked into the window door frame. Also, the entire front suspension had to be changed by Toyota because it was making creaking noises. If my previous 97 Camry was built in Japan, it wouldn't of had any fit and finish quality problems and the entire front suspension would have been trouble-free. But it was built in Georgetown, Kentucky. Only the engine and transmission was Japanese made.
I am thinking about buying a brand new 2007 Camry 5 speed, but I want to make sure that it's built 100% in Japan. I know too many people who own Toyotas and Hondas that are built here in the U.S. that are not built in Japan that have quality problems. I don't want my Camry to be built in the U.S.A.. If I wanted an American built car, I would by Ford, GM, Chrysler or Dodge. I would rather see Toyota and the rest of the Japanese auto manufacturers build Japanese cars in Japan, not here in the U.S.. American made Japanese cars are nothing but junk.
#2610 of 5338 Re: 5 Speed Manual Camry CE, LE & SE [gtgtcobra]
Apr 09, 2006 (2:20 pm)
I would rather see Toyota and the rest of the Japanese auto manufacturers build Japanese cars in Japan, not here in the U.S.. American made Japanese cars are nothing but junk.
Sorry that you had problems with your '97.. but it is much better for our country to have the transplants built here.
Your highlighted statement is indicative of your experience but it's just not true for everyone. ( 4 Camry's since 1989 with zero problems in 500,000 mi + )
#2611 of 5338 Re: 5 Speed Manual Camry CE, LE & SE [gtgtcobra]
Apr 09, 2006 (3:13 pm)
The problem is not with the American auto worker, it's with the American auto maker.
#2612 of 5338 Re: 5 Speed Manual Camry CE, LE & SE [gtgtcobra]
Apr 09, 2006 (3:14 pm)
How can I find out whether or not the 2007 Camry 5 speed manual is really built in Japan?
All the content details are written right on the Window Sticker. Of course, if the vin starts with a J, that is a clue as well.
#2613 of 5338 Re: 5 Speed Manual Camry CE, LE & SE [gtgtcobra]
Apr 09, 2006 (3:46 pm)
"American made Japanese cars are nothing but junk."
That's got to be one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read here on Edmunds.
#2614 of 5338 Re: 2007 Camry Pricing [johngf1]
Apr 09, 2006 (3:51 pm)
I got an '07 Camry LE 2.4L automatic, with body side molding and trunk cargo package. I pretty mcuh walked in, asked to see the dealer invoice, made an offer of 19,100.. the salesman went back to talk to his boss, and they sold it to me. The sticker price was almost 22,000, so these guys seem to have alot more wiggle room than many are letting on.
#2615 of 5338 Re: 5 Speed Manual Camry CE, LE & SE [gtgtcobra]
Apr 09, 2006 (4:13 pm)
This is just plain wrong. As it happens most of the parts even in the Japanese made Camrys are made in the US, about 75% as a matter of fact. The way cars are made anymore, the welding is done by robots. Machining of precision parts like in the engine is done by CNC machines (computers do it). Electronics are made by various subcontractors. Many subassemblies are put together by hand but they plan them so mistakes are rare. Harnesses plug in. Plastic parts are held in place by clips, screws, bolts, and they use preset torque for the bolts. If the QC procedures are there and the design is good then American workers can do it as well as anyone.
To fix some damage on my son's 98 Accord, I removed the entire bumper cover assembly with a few screws and press-in retainers, then replaced an air resonator with a few screws/bolts, and relined the inner fender with some plastic press-in retainers and a couple of screws. Not hard to do and it is insulting to American workers to say that they cannot do as well as those in Japan. And this Accord was made in Ohio, it has run great for the 20,000 miles we put on it over the past 3 years with no problems whatever.
My 95 Lexus LS400 was 100% Japanese made and it had some rattles, it had some parts go bad, like the steering pump, (twice), rack, once, and other minor problems requiring repair at great expense. I have replaced it with a 2007 Camry and it is a fantastic car, made of 75% US parts (including the engine) and put together in Kentucky.
If you want an American car it is falacy to say buy Ford, Chrysler or GM nowadays. Many of these cars are made in Canada or Mexico now. Sure aren't many made in Detroit anymore.
Apr 09, 2006 (4:17 pm)
gtgtcobra is entitled to his opinion as an American but I agree that it is pretty ridicules and narrow minded. It is definitely not the workers. It is the whole company right down to the line supervisors and workers that count. If it was the workers it would be darn harsh to put down the American worker when everyone living in America is an American worker. I know I am a great worker and definitely take offense to comments like his. Have a great day. Bob
#2617 of 5338 Well ...
Apr 09, 2006 (4:21 pm)
we are talking about the Camry itself. Let's leave these other politically charged issues at the door.
Apr 09, 2006 (4:24 pm)
Good Point. Thank you. This is a great board. And Edmunds is the best on the net!