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#22 of 5260 If you really want a wagon, by bklynguy Oct 02, 2004 (2:16 pm)
I would go for the Subaru Outback. The interior is really nice.
#23 of 5260 by lena132 Oct 02, 2004 (2:40 pm)
When purchasing my 1995 Camry, we never really wanted the wagon. In fact, my husband thought it looked like a herse. So we got the sedan instead and we still have it. Of course, 70,000 miles and 2 kids later, we needed a bigger vehicle. That's why I have a Sienna XLE Limited now.   Judging on the market, there's already a lot of crossover SUVs on the market that wagons aren't really needed.   If they ever introduce it again, I wouldn't really look at it since, again, I have a minivan already. But I want to trade my old Camry in but I'll sure miss it.
#24 of 5260 Engines by lexi4life Oct 02, 2004 (4:19 pm)
So anyway, since Toyota will build 2 new V6 in the future (3.0 and 3.5) for Toyota/Lexus cars, I think we might see the future Camry get the 3.0. It is rated at 245 hp, and 250 hp is usually the sane limit for an FWD car so that could work perfectly well. And if it needed more hp (to compete with future Altimas and Accords), they'd just need to boost it a bit to 255. But do customers really need that much hp anyway? So I expect all other cars related to the camry to get it too, except for the RX and ES from Lexus because they need more hp (so that customers don't want to buy a loaded Camry or Highlander instead). I know it perhaps seems weird to go from a 3.3 to a 3.0 but that sounds more realistic than a 3.5. But Avalon, RX, ES, IS and GS could get the 3.5. Replies to this message: bullseye (Oct 03, 2004 7:26 am)
#25 of 5260 Re: Camry wagon [danielj6] by norne Oct 03, 2004 (2:58 am)
Replying to: danielj6 (Oct 02, 2004 2:09 pm) good point. I don't think toyo would bring back the camry station wagon when they already have the Highlander in the lineup.   What would be interesting to see is how well the new mazda6 wagon will do??? If mazda6 wagon is a hit, than maybe toyo will reconsider??
#26 of 5260 Styling... by boomsama Oct 03, 2004 (5:32 am)
I thought Toyota wanted to style their cars more "european" like? Replies to this message: pod (Nov 27, 2005 5:46 am) pod (Nov 27, 2005 5:57 am) killerpiece (Nov 27, 2005 2:59 pm)
#27 of 5260 Re: Engines [lexi4life] by bullseye Oct 03, 2004 (7:26 am)
Replying to: lexi4life (Oct 02, 2004 4:19 pm) The 2 V6 families that you are referring to are seperate for FWD and RWD applications. The DI V6 family (currently used in Japan's RWD Toyota Crown Royal and Crown Athlete) are currently only in 2.5L and 3.0L forms and will be used in Lexus RWD cars such as the next GS and the next IS ranges. There is a rumour that a 3.5L variation of the same DI engine will be used as the optional engine in the next IS which appears late next year. But the GS will show up with the 3.0L tuned for 245-252 HP. The rumored reason is that Lexus wants to push the V8 models of the GS (There will be 2 V8s with the second showing up in 2 yrs after its introduced as an optional engine on the next LS). The second thing is that due to DI, the engine has a very strong and broad power curve and coupled with the very efficient 6AT is capable enough to rival higher displacement engines from competitors while offering class leading fuel economy. Also, Lexus is trying to differentiate itself from its parent both in terms of design and driving feel and engine choices are being made not with respect to Toyota but with respect to its European rivals.   Toyota's FWD V6 engine family is completely seperate. Right now there are 3.0 and 3.3L variants. The next Avalon is expected to introduce another engine (3.5L). It is yet unclear if this engine will belong to some existing engine family or will be all-new. Will know more when the Avalon is launched next Jan/Feb. The Avalon will have nothing in common with the next GS, not in platform and not in driving feel. Avalon will continue to be on a FWD Camry chassis but its been stretched considerably and will have AWD available. Camry platform mates will see this new 3.5L engine in select applications like the next Lexus RX and ES. The current 3.0 vvti engine will be completely phased out within 2 yrs. The 3.3L will remain in conjunction with the new 3.5L.   Much of this info is the result of magazine and internet rumors coupled with press interviews of Toyota and Lexus officials. Nothing is official but most of this information is expected to hold true. Hope this helps clarify the picture.
#28 of 5260 Camry wagon by danielj6 Oct 03, 2004 (10:26 am)
In my opinion Toyota will come back with a wagon. Market trends and conditions are causing several if not numerous car manufacturers to put out a wagon (some call it a sportwagon). I don't think Toyota can ignore that niche of the market.   I'm sure they (Toyota's fat cats) thought about it. Their dilemma,however,appears to be re introducing the wagon without overshadowing the Sienna and the Highlander, two great vehicles.   Owning a station wagon is a matter of personal taste, no doubt. I've had a Mercury Sable s. w. up until May. Ford will have to labor long and hard to match Toyota and others.   Chrysler shares Toyota's dilemma. Making a wagon without stealing sales from the Pacifica and their minivans. Subaru and Volvo don't yet have minivans, so it appears to be less of a quandary for them to improve upon their line of wagons.   I agree with you norne that the Mazda6 wagon may push Toyota to bring a wagon. Currently I'm my second Toyota and trust their dependability and quality. I'd get a Camry wagon any day, but with a 6 cylinder motor and maybe all wheel drive or traction control. I'd want outside heated mirrors as well as curtain airbags, but no leather please. Don't need seating for 8 either.
#29 of 5260 bullseye by alpha01 Oct 03, 2004 (10:30 am)
Everything you report is precisely as I've read/heard it regarding Toyota's application of V6 engines in its front/AWD and rear/AWD current and upcoming platforms. Thanks for such a clear, concise, summary, great job!   My only contention is that I feel the phase out of the FWD/AWD 3.0L V6 that first debuted in the 1992 Camry/ES is going to be much sooner. I was under the impression that once the next gen Avalon production starts, that model will be using the 3.5L as you state, but Toyota will phase out production of the 3.0L at that time, as the Camry LE/XLE will then be the ONLY North American models using that engine, so TMMK will switch to production of the 3.5L and the 3.3L, which is used in the Solara and Camry SE that are also produced there. Of course, this is just speculation...   ~alpha Replies to this message: cooldad24 (Oct 28, 2005 3:24 pm) alpha01 (Oct 29, 2005 8:48 am) motownusa (Oct 29, 2005 10:10 am) motownusa (Oct 29, 2005 11:29 am)
#30 of 5260 Engines by lexi4life Oct 03, 2004 (1:33 pm)
Well, I've heard something totally different. The 2 new V6 would be built for FWD, FWD based AWD AND RWD cars. So then Toyota/Lexus could use them in all the cars they'd want without mattering about power transmission. Replies to this message: gundagai (Jan 07, 2005 3:56 pm)
#31 of 5260 Re: Engines [lexi4life] by gundagai Jan 07, 2005 (3:56 pm)
Replying to: lexi4life (Oct 03, 2004 1:33 pm) Do you think that the 06 camry will come with a awd? together with stability and traction control ? this would be awesome for me,as the older you get the more safety conscious you become.if this is so will postpone trading 98 v6 on an 05 and wait another year,whats the latest news??

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