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Replacement Cost by Insurance Company for Totaled Vehicle

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#132 of 196
My 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan was totalled by nataliak
Dec 26, 2006 (3:20 pm)
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Hi
My name is Natalia and last week I was hit from behind while making a left turn on a busy street. The driver hit me from behind at 60km/h because he was reading a map. The police charged him with careless driving on the spot. I have not spoken to the appraiser yet to find out whether or not my car is a write-off. Frankly my car is 2 months old and I don't want a re-built car. Any suggestions to sway my insurance (President's Choice - part of Aviva Traders) to give me a new car and not fix this one. I don't want to be paying for a brand new car and driving a rebuilt. If you could please offer me some advice or suggestions to say to the insurance company that would be great.
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Re: My 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan was totalled [nataliak] by kirstie_h HOST
Dec 27, 2006 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: nataliak (Dec 26, 2006 3:20 pm)

1. Wait til you get the appraisal/offer from the insurance company.
2. The other driver's insurance is responsible for paying, not yours, if he is at fault.
3. Read the few posts just before yours for advice on getting the purchase price + tax if your car is totalled.
#134 of 196
Re: My 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan was totalled [kirstie_h] by smittynyc
Dec 27, 2006 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Dec 27, 2006 7:56 am)

"2. The other driver's insurance is responsible for paying, not yours, if he is at fault."
 
Unless you have the misfortune of residing in a no-fault state.
 
However, it seems like the OP is from Canada. They have a modified no-fault system which does assign fault, and the at-fault driver's insurance would probably be on the hook for the payment.
 
EDIT: I'm wrong (at least with respect to NY state). No-fault only applies to personal injury and liability. If a driver is found to be at fault, then his insurance company is responsible for damage to other drivers' cars (assuming he has insurance).
 
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Re: My 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan was totalled [smittynyc] by kirstie_h HOST
Dec 27, 2006 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: smittynyc (Dec 27, 2006 8:24 am)

Good point, smitty - I hadn't thought of the no-fault state issue.
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Re: My 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan was totalled [kirstie_h] by nataliak
Dec 27, 2006 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Dec 27, 2006 9:31 am)

I spoke with my insurance company today and was told that the damaged was around $9700, and my car is worth $18600. Is there any way I can get them to replace my car even though the damage is not more than the car's worth? What about the fact that I don't want to be paying for a rebuilt car that is 2 months old, while i'm paying it's 'brand new' price? What are my options now? Especially if I plan to sell it on the open market. Would I have to disclose it as rebuilt? will that even show up on my ownership, or is it buyer beware?
 
All the help is greatly appreciated.
 
Natalia
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Re: My 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan was totalled [nataliak] by pch101
Dec 27, 2006 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: nataliak (Dec 27, 2006 2:01 pm)

You have a battle on your hands trying to get the car totalled out. I would begin be getting different estimates with (hopefully) higher damage estimates, and by reviewing the estimate that you've received to make sure that the work it details is appropriate and sufficient for the job.
 
To the extent that you can, try to get as many new OEM parts as possible (as opposed to used junkyard parts and lookalike parts that were not used by the manufacturer of your car.) Make sure that the cost is not being lowballed in order to get you to accept a repair job when a total might be more appropriate.
 
If the car has extensive frame damage (and with that kind of repair bill, it just might), that might provide another basis for fighting for a total.
 
Hopefully, some Canadian posters will see this, as laws vary between the US and Canada, and I presume from province to province.
 
And again, if you succeed in getting the car totalled, be sure that your settlement on a total includes tax (GST and PST), registration fees, etc., and that the value is based upon the car's retail value. (Kelley Blue Book is a US publication, so you will want to use the Canadian equivalent.)
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Re: My 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan was totalled [nataliak] by cccompson
Dec 27, 2006 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: nataliak (Dec 27, 2006 2:01 pm)

If the damages are only slightly more than the value of the vehicle, the insurance company will not total it.
 
What you need to fight for is its diminished value as a result of having been in a severe collision. Regardless of how well it is repaired, a trained eye will be able to detect that it has been fixed.
#139 of 196
Vehicle Should be Totaled by lilgto
Jan 17, 2007 (10:09 am)
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Hello,
 
Hopefully someone can provide me with some advice concerning a recent accident my daughter was involved in and if her vehicle should be totaled. The other driver was cited at fault, both vehicles were covered by different insurance carriers. As of today the damage to her 2005 Sunfire stands at $6,056.00, to me this vehicle should be totaled due to the amount of damage sustained. It was hit on the driver's side, door, rear quarter, window, rear tire & wheel, were destroyed, damage to the roof line, interior (seats bent over) and damage to the floor pan. According to the estimates more work is to be completed once the vehicle is “straightened”. Due to the damage and impact I believe this vehicle will never be correct and that the insurance company should total the vehicle. What options does my daughter have in order to make sure this vehicle is totaled or repaired? I believe the damages must reach a figure of 70% of the NADA retail value before it is totaled, is this true?
 
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Tom
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Re: Vehicle Should be Totaled [lilgto] by cccompson
Jan 17, 2007 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: lilgto (Jan 17, 2007 10:09 am)

Tom, the formula (percentage of value to declare it a total loss) used varies somewhat by carrier. I've seen as low as 65% and as high as 85%. The model of vehicle may well affect the calculation as well - the insurer will be selling it if totaled and some cars are more in demand than others. Your daughter's car doesn't sound like it has much appeal as a "builder" for someone down the line. However, it would be good for parts. The initial damage estimate seems a bit low if the damage extended into the roof.
 
To "make sure" your daughter gets her desired result, she may have to give a little somewhere in the process.
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Re: Vehicle Should be Totaled [cccompson] by lilgto
Jan 18, 2007 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Jan 17, 2007 5:50 pm)

Thanks for the response and yes that initial estimate to me is low.

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