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BMW Z4 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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What is this discussion about? BMW Z4, Coupe, Convertible


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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [delfer] by kyfdx HOST
May 03, 2007 (2:58 am)
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Replying to: delfer (May 02, 2007 8:16 pm)

1) I think "fightingchance.com" might be speaking generically about waiting till the end of the month, etc.. Unless there are specific BMW-to-dealer incentives on this model, then $500 over invoice is probably the best you can do.
 
2) I assume you meant that if your lower offer is accepted, how much will it change the payments? $560 lower selling price will drop the payment around $17/mo. That won't affect the due at signing by much.
 
3) According to the quotes you were given, the base MF is .0010 and the residual for 3yr/36K is 65%, which is what I show for April. They are likely the same numbers for May.
 
On your last quote, they dropped the security deposit, but added the sec.deposit waiver to the MF, raising it to .00115
 
This is why the payment is higher. Make sure you make a security deposit, and get the lower money factor.
 
You have a decent deal on the table..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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RUN FLAT TIRES by jlettie2
May 05, 2007 (4:32 pm)
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Hi
  I'm thinking of purchasing a Z-4,I have been told a few stories that if you get a flat the tire cannot be repaired and the rim may be damaged. The cost to replace the rim and tire could be over $700.00. The ride is stiff. The majority of people do not like run flats. The manufactures are not listening to customers. Has any one had similar experiences with these tires? Thanks JOE
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Run Flats by blacktalon
May 05, 2007 (11:03 pm)
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I didn't like the OEM Continental run-flats at all on my Z4 3.0si coupe, so I replaced them all with Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s, and I'm much happier.
 
The PS2s are much more responsive, have much better grip, and provide a much more comfortable ride, so it's win-win.
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [kyfdx] by delfer
May 06, 2007 (9:16 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 03, 2007 2:58 am)

Thanks for thius kyfdx! The dealer is now just looking for my red leather interior with jet black exterior. Says he will need to get it from a San Diego dealer, although he says it's typically a hassle that not many dealers prefer to go through. How true?
 
the dealer tells me the last quote was $500 over invoice, and that the $560 difference between invoice ($47,820) and his quote of $48,380 is the MACO fee. I asked for a detailed breakdown -- sec deposit, cap cost, money factor, residual, etc, just so I could rest assured every dollar was accounted for. Any other things I should ask to cover all bases?
 
Lastly, are there any incentives at all with BMW on this car for the month that you know of? From the research I've been doing, $500 over invoice on this car does sound like a more than decent deal.
 
Thanks for the insight! I hope CarMan and WRobbins can chime in as well!
#465 of 495
Invoice and incentives on 2006 M Roadster..... by seekup
May 07, 2007 (4:36 pm)
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Hi. Where can I find information (invoice, factory to dealer incentive, money factor and residuals) on a 2006 M Roadster?
 
Also, any opinions on why there are so many 2006 cars left? Overpriced to start with? Gas mileage?
 
Thanks!
Seekup
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [kyfdx] by delfer
May 09, 2007 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 03, 2007 2:58 am)

I am confused with my most recent quote ... according to my dealer, the following offer is $500 over invoice:
 
I can get you this car by end of May. Here is the exact lease structure sales price is $500 over invoice.
 
Model 0729 Z4 R 3.0si USD 42,400.00
   Color 668 Jet Black N/C
   Upholstery LASW Black Leather N/C
   Options ZPP Premium Package 2,750.00
                 399 Fully automatic soft top N/C
                 430 Auto-dimming mirrors N/C
                 459 Power front seats N/C
                 493 Storage package N/C
                 639 BMW Assist N/C
     ZSP Sport Package 1,200.00
                 224 Sport driving mode N/C
                 350 18" wheels w/performance tires N/C
                 704 Sport suspension N/C
     205 STEPTRONIC automatic trans. 1,275.00
     438 Wood trim N/C
     494 Heated front seats 500.00
     522 Xenon headlights 700.00
     609 Navigation system 1,800.00
              Net Total 50,625.00
              DESTINATION CHARGE 775.00
              GAS GUZZLER N/C
              Total Suggested Price 51,400.00
              Selling price $48,380
 
According to edmunds, 51,400 is MSRP but $47,320 is invoice, so if I'm not mistaken, $47,820 is $500 over invoice.
 
Where is his $560 coming from???
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [delfer] by kyfdx HOST
May 10, 2007 (3:20 am)
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Replying to: delfer (May 09, 2007 6:52 pm)

Where is his $560 coming from???
 
MACO and training fee..
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [kyfdx] by delfer
May 10, 2007 (8:41 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 10, 2007 3:20 am)

Ok, thanks ... that clarifies things. That said kyfdx, can you tell me what you compute the monthly payments for this quote for:
 
36 months, 15K miles, and 36 months 12K miles?
This is with zero down, and about $1500++ in drive-offs.
 
Thanks!
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [delfer] by kyfdx HOST
May 11, 2007 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: delfer (May 10, 2007 8:41 pm)

Rolling the $625 acq.fee into the selling price, the payment for 3yr/45K would be $543/mo. + tax..
 
Due at signing would be 1st payment, security deposit and title/registration fees (approx. $1200 + title/registration).
 
3yr/36K would drop the payment to $516/mo.+ tax.
 
Hope that helps,
kyfdx
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [kyfdx] by delfer
May 12, 2007 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 11, 2007 12:11 pm)

Awesome ... looks like I'll be sealing the deal on this one on the 22nd, when the car arrives. May I ask for your valuable opinion kyfdx?
 
1. Are you familiar with the DVD based navi on the Z4? The dealer tells me it is not real-time traffic like on the new 3-series, so I wonder if it is still worth it.
2. Is BMW a bit more lenient in overused miles, if the plan is one leases with them at the end of lease term? Or is isafer to just make the higher payment for 15K miles per year?
 
Thank you so much for all the help!

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